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The Unknown
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Probably the Oracle, but I don't remember...


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"The MTV Movie Awards are a systemic anomaly inherent to the programming of the Matrix. Although the transport process has altered your consciousness, you irrevocably remain human. Ergo, concordantly, vis-a-vis... You know what? I have no idea what the hell I'm saying. I just thought it would make me sound cool."
-The Architect AKA Larry

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Sifer

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Michael - That is the kid's name, just so you know smile

And it was deduced long ago that Character names have multiple meanings in the Matrix. He isn't SPECIFICALLY any of them, just in general. Even the Oracle said it herself:

"What do all men with power want? More power."

Why was Lucifer cast down from heaven? Because he wanted more power. There is more links than you could possibly imagine.


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giumi
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Hi guys im new here and got tired of just browsing around and decided to have my say in this Seraph disscution.......i believe that Seraphis the One .4 (assuming Neo is the 5) i don't know if this is being discussed in other forums but the reasons i believe this are simple...
1.He fights exactly like Neo (Reloaded)
2.Everyone in Merov's hell recognizes him
3.He tells Smith that he already beat him once
The reason i say this is because i think that everything we saw in this istallment of the matrix already happened (therefore he had already gone to see the Merov to "collect" the keymaker and that is why everyone recognizes him
The reason the Matrix only gets Reloaded is because everyone beats Smith at the end beacuse they are told that that's what needs to be done........that is except Neo who CHOSSES not to beat Smith instead he lets himselg be beaten, ergo SMith dies and the Matrix is finally beaten instead of being reloaded and beginning the cycle again
I believe the Oracle always chosses the formers ONE to be her guardian, hence Merov's hatred for her (she changed him for Seraph) i don't know probably just bs that in talking here because it sure made a whole lot more sense before i started writing........

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The Unknown
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Seraph is just a powerful program the protects the Oracle. Everyone recognized him because he probably used to work for the Merovingian. If he was a "One" then he would have flown away with Sati instead of just hiding. And the Merovingian is a program. And the thing with Smith has nothing to do with reloading the Matrix (this is the first time it's happened)...


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-The Architect AKA Larry

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Seraph

Hi does anyone have a good picture of Seraph pleeeease?

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ch0g0nda
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All I got.

Attachment: 3gunsablazing.jpg
This has been downloaded 85 time(s).


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Kin
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Thank-you! Mwah!!!!!!!! stick out tongue Seraph is lurvely

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mathematrix
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Dont the various levels of heaven/hell belong in islam?

Also if Neo was different to the other "ones" then there should be no need for the oracles answer to the architects question:

Architect: just how long do you think this peace is going to last?
Oracle: As long as it can

That sounds like a degree of uncertainty to me, as though it isnt going to last long. The oracle should know exactly how long it will last and would have mentioned if the peace will be long term. So i believe ultimately Neo didnt achieve much because he hasnt broken the cycle of war/peace between man and machine. It is yet another system of control. Another way of making humans think theyve won when really the machines knew all along.

Or something like that. confused


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Neo: ....."I see Trinity and she is falling... and then I wake up".

Oracle: "Now dats f**ked up"!

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Originally posted by Ghastly_Twin
Who is Seraph?

This is my explanation.

The reason Seraph (the Chinese guy Neo meets before meeting the Oracle) had golden code and was so spectacular is that he came from the first incarnation of the matrix, which was heaven. "Seraph" is singular for the plural "seraphim". The seraphim are the highest choir of angels and included amongst others: Lucifer, Gabriele, Raziel and Malaciah, and they sit on the 8th level of Heaven just one below God. So Seraph will obviously have a big part in Revolutions, helping the freedom fighters.


Sorry. this is what Im quoting from in regards to what I wrote above. embarrasment


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Neo: ....."I see Trinity and she is falling... and then I wake up".

Oracle: "Now dats f**ked up"!

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Neo_Version 7
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Seraph was the shit.


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mathematrix
Im Detective John Kimble!

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Damn right. Weird glasses though.


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Neo: ....."I see Trinity and she is falling... and then I wake up".

Oracle: "Now dats f**ked up"!

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StinkFist462
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seraph should had had a biger role and more story invloved. id rather have more time spent on him then the wasted time on trinitys death JUST DIE ALREADY!


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Neo_Version 7
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The twins were the shit, too. stick out tongue


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Ohhhh Dissssss.

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FallenForever
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i had always thot seraph worked for merv first...but why would he change his mind and help the oracle? and why wasn't he in the first one?


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ch0g0nda
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Whoa; talk about digging up an old thread.

Saw the email notification for this and I was like laughing

But yah; Seraph pwns j00 f00lz!!!11


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super pr*xy
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Originally posted by FallenForever
i had always thot seraph worked for merv first...but why would he change his mind and help the oracle? and why wasn't he in the first one?


he probably had a meeting with the oracle. she said something seraph wanted to hear and he defected.


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FallenForever
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so...seraph's just a "defected program"?


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"There is no spoon"

"Anything is possible right now. We're in the middle of an isolated high-coincidental localized entropic field decreasement."
"We're in a what?"
"We're in a pseudoscientific technobabble.'

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super pr*xy
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"defected" does not mean defective, if that's what you're thinking. he just switched sides.


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When the dude says "holy shit, its wingless". My first reaction to that was it was some kind of nickname. now that I've pondered it for a while, the guy is actually surprised that seriph has no wings. that would conclude that he was an angel. how did he loose them?

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