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Who Is Faster, Superman or the Flash?
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Draco69
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Flash can only use his infinite mass punch on another speedster attached to the Speed Force. And no way would the Flash be able to vibrate through Superman's personal forcefield.


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Draco you're wrong.Zoom from the Hyperclan wasn't linked to the Speed Force and the IMP works very well on him, so it can work on Superman moving at hyper speeds too.How can you say Flash cannot vibrate through Supes ff?

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Flash is faster. It's been documented as somebody in a previous post noted.


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I'm sorry, but the Flash is faster. He has to be, otherwise there's no point in him! Superman kicks ass - but if he was the best at everything, what's the point in having a Justice League?

Superman is outrageously good in every respect, but not infinitely powerful. Juggernaut is slightly more durable, Hulk is arguably stronger and The Flash is faster.

But to be honest, at the ridiculous speeds these guys move, the difference in time it takes them t get anywhere will be seconds, so does it matter lol?


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quote:
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if superman is faster than flash then y do we even have a flash?


Well, Superman has powers above those of hundereds (if not thousands) of other heroes. Would you argue that they aren't neccessary?

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flash is the fastest. At times, the old flash (barry) had been shown to go faster than light

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Flash of course


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Flash...any Flash (their have been 3 "mainstream" DC comics flashes") the current and Best Flash Wally West can absorb speed and make Supes move in slower than he already moves...not that I'm saying Superman is Slow mind you..it that compared to Wally West Flash he is.

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also, it would be stupid for Flash to be slower. His whole power is speed. And Supes already has millions of different powers.


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I mean how unfair is that?!


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Originally posted by K3VIL
Draco you're wrong.Zoom from the Hyperclan wasn't linked to the Speed Force and the IMP works very well on him, so it can work on Superman moving at hyper speeds too.How can you say Flash cannot vibrate through Supes ff?


Zoom was a White Martian. He was going at least a 1/10 of lightspeed. And MM is nowhere near that fast. Also he had the same electric discharge that speedsters have that are connected to the Speed Force.

His forcefield prevents it. Only Krypotnite and very powerful attacks can breach it.


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Flash (Barry Allen) and Superman (1980s version) were both demonstrated to be superluminal (taychons), violating certain laws of physics, as we understand it today in the field of quantum mechanics.

Both had many other exaggerated abilities. From the 1940s through the early 1980s, Superman's powers were basically unlimited: he could travel millions of light-years in brief periods of time; he could dive into stars unharmed; he could travel through time by moving at speeds faster than light; and he could move planets and lift any weight. He could even vibrate his body so fast, the vibrations rendered him "invisible" to the human eye.

Wally West can vibrate through objects, but doing so causes them to explode. Any faster than light and he merges with the speed.

The problem with faster-than-light is that according to Einstein's theory of relativity the speed of light (299,792 km/sec) is the front velocity for transfering information. A rough explanation is that 'anything' that travels faster than light in a vacuum doesn't carry energy.

There are phenomena, where something - e.g. a wavefront - travels faster than light, but ANY information doesn't. Such phenomena exist and are compatible with relativity.

E.g, take a laser pointer and make a spot on the moon. Then turn your wrist to make a spot on the earth. It takes over a second for light to travel from the moon to the earth, yet I can move that little spot the same distance in far less than one second.

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quote:
Originally posted by Draco69
Zoom was a White Martian. He was going at least a 1/10 of lightspeed. And MM is nowhere near that fast. Also he had the same electric discharge that speedsters have that are connected to the Speed Force.

His forcefield prevents it. Only Krypotnite and very powerful attacks can breach it.

Wally says: I doubt he's linked to the field, it means to the field of the Speed Force.Not all speedsters are connected to the Speed Force.Superman isn't.Zoom wasn't.He was probably a martian that exceed the speed powers of the others cause he born with speed powers superiors to the other martians.

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This a nice theory, but it doesn't explain the same signature electric discharge that ALL Speed Force speedsters share.


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Superman and Flash (if they are from this dimension or universe) may be equally strong if they are faster than light. Their bodies should be made of sub-atomic particles called Tachyons.

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eleveninches
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Flash is the fastest MAN in the world.
Superman is not really a man. He's a kryptonian, not a human

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The only problem i have with Flash is that he is supposedly faster than light. Theoretically, if Flash can move FTL, then what is he (he obviously can't be made of real atoms)? Also if Flash is faster than light, why can't he fly (a body which travels faster than light must have imaginary or complex-valued mass and negative energy)?

This leads to paradoxes. What this comes to impy is that special relativity and causality do not exist in the world of comics, so basically everything can happen without a reason.

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K3VIL
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Originally posted by Draco69
This a nice theory, but it doesn't explain the same signature electric discharge that ALL Speed Force speedsters share.

Zum wasn't linked to the field, he wasn't able to perform feats of speedster powers that show him linked to the SF.The speedsters linked to the Speed Force can sense the presence of those that are linked to it.
It's showed after the battle with Savitar, when Max Mercury's left eye is blinding and he says that Wally is coming but appears John Fox arrived from a far future where he took on the mantle of the Flash.
Also Zum electrical discharges maybe caused from his own martian powers.Superman is a speester, he can reach 1% of lightspeed or slightly more.But he doesn't has electrical discharges.Zum does, probably thanks to a genetic peculiarity he possess, it was stated he was weaker in terms of physical strenght and toughness than the other Martians, maybe he was genetically manipulated or born as a speedster, i don't know really.

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SuperMan in a heart beat.


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Zoom...the new reverse flash is the only person who is faster than Wally West Flash. the guy who is the flash both in the comics and JLU cartoon I might add. Zoom is faster because he can "step outside of time" whatever the hell that means.

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