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darth fester
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luke in black

why in rotj does luke wear all black and not traditional jedi brown

he went to jabbas palace as a jedi knight so he should have dressed like one

have i got a point here


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JediOasis
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Yeah, even Mark Hamil said to Lucas "This looks to Vaderish." And Lucas said "that is the idea." Lucas wanted to make wear the similar garb because he wanted people to wonder which way Luke was heading.


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I reckon it would have been much cooler if Luke had joined the Dark Side at the end of ROTJ. The soppy ending kind of spoiled it, and it would make the EU novels much more interesting. evil face


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Now, that's nonsense. It's a fairy tale and fairy tales oughta end well. And EU, well, forget about that too. big grin

I had hoped this black outfit would be the Jedi outfit. Too bad. The brown robes OB1 and Owen wore seemed like farmer's clothes to me.

I remember a comic from several years back (okay, EU, sorry big grin ) which feature OB1 in his younger days. Younger in the sense of ANH younger. He wore black like Luke did there. I'm sure the brown robes were not thought to be traditional Jedi robes until TPM.


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That's right. The robes were originally Tatooine farming gear. They were turned into Jedi uniform some way into TPM's development. May people thought Luke's ROTJ costume was the official Jedi uniform, and at some points in TPMs development that wasn't far wrong...


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I think George was right in putting Luke in black for ROTJ. Luke had already been tempted by Vader at the end of ESB. Why wouldn't a tiny part of him want to join his father, even on the dark side ? There would be no point for his renouncing the darkness to the emporer if he hadn't wrestled with it awhile first.


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Zereil
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He did join the Dark side and then return to the light side in Dark Empire, and the Graphic novels are connected to the Books as mentioned by the Heir to the Empire links. Anyway as to Luks look, a) no one had mentioned to him as part of his training that Jedi have a fashion sense and b) Everyone looks better in Black..


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Ooh! Watch the revolving Dark Side door... you go in, you go out, who cares! Some of these EU authors had no sense of perspctive.

He did look DAMN good in black...


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Isn't there some kind of EU ban outside the EU Forums? laughing out loud

Luke's black clothes also had to do with this great colour scheme Lucas applied in the OT. Luke wore white (of innocence) in ANH, brown in ESB (for growing up) and black for maturity in ROTJ. So Lucas did a lot of thinking about this. I think it's a tad unfortunate that Jedi robes are just farmer's clothes.
On the other hand, Lucas always had the vision of the Jedi being a bit like monks. In that sense this dress sounds fine. But Anakin might be the kind a kid to prefer black as well in later life. wink


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As I said everyone looks better in Black...


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Even me! laughing out loud


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I felt Luke was more "khaki" in ESB than brown. But of course everyone looks good in black. smokin'


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I seem to remember a promo picture of Luke in that suit and it was actually a very pale tan and not as brown as when we see him in it. All that sweat and grime I guess.

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Light brown, khaki, light tan.... still the same symbolism.


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Well if you knew your crayolas as well as I do it could have easily been burnt sienna, you know. laughing out loud


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Well, your previous 3 posts were fine.

Simple rules:

1. In the sections stay on topic.
2. All Chit, Chat in The General Discussion
3. Be polite

Something like this would be better in the Support Forum for instance...

Oh, and cut the CAPS LOCK, it's rather irritating and means you are shouting.

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Dim
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Actually..GL said that Luke ROTJ costume was more "jedi-like" What does that mean?..considering that that GL didn't have anyone in TPM in a costume like that. But instead it looks a bit more like Maul's to me.


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Ushgarak
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When did he say this, Dim? The timing of that statement could explain a lot.


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Actually, if you look closely at the cut and design of Luke costome in ROTJ and compare it to Obi Wans in TPM, they are very similar.

Because it is all black, it is very hard to see the shape but you definatly have the under smock, with the two part jerkin over the top and a best holding it in place. It's seen to best effect during the desert skiff battle.

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