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Ratcat
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OK, well gunshot wounds apart, I'll still take my chances.
Ya gotta dies sometime right?
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Ushgarak
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DO I look stupid? Of COURSE they don't, but that argument is used to rule availability out of the equation. It does not work in the US, where availability is the only POSSIBLE cause of their obscene rate!
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Apr 27th, 2001 09:11 PM |
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finti
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if that is so Ush we have a higher crime rate in Norway.
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Apr 27th, 2001 09:13 PM |
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Ushgarak
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Well, I can't speak for Norway, but can you point out any causal link for the gun death rate in America? I doubt it. There is only one possible one.
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Apr 27th, 2001 09:15 PM |
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Ratcat
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I guess it is the whole point about ease of access. As someone said, Ush I believe, nearly everyone has a gun.
It's just like cars. When there were less cars there were less fatalities by automobile.
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Apr 27th, 2001 09:19 PM |
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Ushgarak
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Exactly. The ridiculous gun death rate in America is caused mainly by the mass availability of guns. There can be no other explanation.
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Apr 27th, 2001 09:22 PM |
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Raz
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I'm pretty sure they would ban guns if they could. But they can't as its part of their consitution.
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Apr 27th, 2001 09:25 PM |
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Ushgarak
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Which made perfect sense at the time, of course. That's the trouble with it all, I suppose...
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Apr 27th, 2001 09:28 PM |
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Ratcat
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Oh, I doubt that has ever been in dispute. The pro-gun lobbyists may try and argue that it is but facts are facts.
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Apr 27th, 2001 09:28 PM |
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Ushgarak
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Indeed. Hence the argument of about guns not killing people, which is fair enough over here where the regulations are strong and the mass element has been removed, simply does not apply to the States where you cannot possibly claim that supply is not affecting the rate.
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Apr 27th, 2001 09:32 PM |
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Raz
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But if America is the King of democracy then why don't they hold a referendum and decide to change the constitution?
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Apr 27th, 2001 09:35 PM |
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Ushgarak
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Um... that's technically feasible, but it starts getting very complex very quickly...
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Apr 27th, 2001 09:36 PM |
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Ratcat
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Hey, that's politics! 
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Apr 27th, 2001 09:37 PM |
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Ushgarak
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Sorry, is that banned? There's been enough EU discussion...
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Apr 27th, 2001 09:38 PM |
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Ratcat
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No, silly, I mean that's how politics works. You have this wonderful idea of a democracy right up until the point where someone gets worried they're gonna loose out then it all falls apart....
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Apr 27th, 2001 09:40 PM |
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Ushgarak
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My apologies. You are probably right, of course.
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Apr 27th, 2001 09:45 PM |
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Ratcat
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Apr 27th, 2001 09:52 PM |
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Ushgarak
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Dumb of me...
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Apr 27th, 2001 09:55 PM |
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Ratcat
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Apr 27th, 2001 10:02 PM |
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Gundark
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I guess since chaos isn't around, its time for mayhem to step in and drag this off topic. 
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