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Did anyone else notice the phoenix at the end of X2

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yup! yup! the phoenix bird flying in the lake. that was cool.


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Yeah, the Phoenix ending was cool.


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Yup..and there are other Phoenix foreshadowing in the movie other than the one under the lake.

And you can see their evolution.

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1st pic : Phoenix bird silhouette.
2nd pic : Half Phoenix half human silhouette. (Either it's hard to notice or I'm imagining things. LOL)
3rd pic : Human Phoenix silhouette.

In other words...

Voila!!! Jean Grey the Phoenix in X3!!!! mwahahahaha!!!

And of course, let's not forget her "fiery eyes"

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that was pretty awesome Jeans an awesome character without the Phoenix deal but this will make her even cooler.


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Good job shadowy_blue!
I only noticed the last one when I first saw the movie.


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Er, I don't remember that first pic from the movie, shadowy_blue, what scene is it from?


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Its easy to see her evolution tru out the movie.


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I wonder how they will explain the phoenix's origin in the movie because they have obviously changed it from the comic.

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I think they are going to make it a natural evolution.
Or maybe link it to that machine Magneto used in the 1st movie cos after wolvie destroys it she acts a bit weird. like she felt something and at the beginning of x2 Scott tells jean she has been having problems with her power since liberty island.


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I think they are going to make it a natural evolution.
Or maybe link it to that machine Magneto used in the 1st movie cos after wolvie destroys it she acts a bit weird. like she felt something and at the beginning of x2 Scott tells jean she has been having problems with her power since liberty island.


Hmm you got a point there Kes.
When that machine was started by Rogue the white "flood" covered them all up. That could have evolved Jean into the Phoenix smile

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I still think the comic solution is better.


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but too long for 1 movie sad


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Er, I don't remember that first pic from the movie, shadowy_blue, what scene is it from?

Um... i think it was when cyclops was in that energy room and jean looks for him and scott sees her but not clearly and he shoots his blast thing and jean stops it.


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Originally posted by VallejoKid707
Um... i think it was when cyclops was in that energy room and jean looks for him and scott sees her but not clearly and he shoots his blast thing and jean stops it.


He sees and recognizes her... but he's being manipulated by Stryker.... so he attacks her


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I would add that he had recognized her before, because he attacked Jean,Magnéto & Mystique. Then Cyclops and Jean fight in this room, because Cyclops is under Stryker's control.


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To conclude, let's just say it went like this:

Jean: aaahh!!
Scott: Jean!! No! No! No!..it's alright, it's me..
Jean: Scott ?!
Scott: I'm so sorry...I can see you but I can't stop myself..I've tried, I'm sorry
Jean: Oh...I love you so much..
Scott: I love you...
Jean: Ahh...my leg
Jean and Scott: .............(silence for a while)
Jean: Scott....
Scott: .....??
Jean: Something's wrong....

In the text that I've bolded and italicized, it was clear that Scott saw Jean, and from what he said, "I can't stop myself, I've tried...I'm sorry", it just means that he recognized her. So all in all, all of you are correct. big grin

Clear enough !?!

Cool big grin


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I'd just like to say..."Hi Ev'body!!!" and now I’d like to add that, um, I like the idea of Jean becoming Phoenix through a natural evolution...it'd be waaay to hard, to long and too weird if they did the whole Shi'ar story, especially for people not accustomed to the comic book OR Cartoon (which changed the original Phoenix story too btw), So, having Jean go through a natural evolutionary period, kinda fits the movier-verse really well *I* think (after all, this is only my opinion! ~_^), also, as for the Liberty Island incident, I don't think Magneto’s machine affected Jean (LOL now watch Singer prove me wrong!), remember in the first movie when someone asks if Magneto’s machine affects mutants and i think it was Jean that said "It doesn't appear to" or something like that, it might affect Mutants, but if it did, then Toad, Sabretooth, Magneto and Mystique and all the other X-Men should have evolved by now too (maybe), I wonder if Jean was acting all wonky after Wolvie destroyed the machine because she sensed that Rogue had died...its a possibility, hopefully, we'll learn more in the third movie (which there will be because I command it! to happen lol...I’m such a nerd...) and then I’ll shut up about my theories...hmm, actually, i think I’ll just shut up now LOL


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quote:
Originally posted by mistofojerrie
I'd just like to say..."Hi Ev'body!!!" and now I’d like to add that, um, I like the idea of Jean becoming Phoenix through a natural evolution...it'd be waaay to hard, to long and too weird if they did the whole Shi'ar story, especially for people not accustomed to the comic book OR Cartoon (which changed the original Phoenix story too btw), So, having Jean go through a natural evolutionary period, kinda fits the movier-verse really well *I* think (after all, this is only my opinion! ~_^), also, as for the Liberty Island incident, I don't think Magneto’s machine affected Jean (LOL now watch Singer prove me wrong!), remember in the first movie when someone asks if Magneto’s machine affects mutants and i think it was Jean that said "It doesn't appear to" or something like that, it might affect Mutants, but if it did, then Toad, Sabretooth, Magneto and Mystique and all the other X-Men should have evolved by now too (maybe), I wonder if Jean was acting all wonky after Wolvie destroyed the machine because she sensed that Rogue had died...its a possibility, hopefully, we'll learn more in the third movie (which there will be because I command it! to happen lol...I’m such a nerd...) and then I’ll shut up about my theories...hmm, actually, i think I’ll just shut up now LOL


Its just an option. Maybe it only affected her for some reason big grin
I just think its weird that she starts acting eird right after the machine is destoied and in the beginning of X2 Scott says she has been like that since Liberty island.


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