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Sifer

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It was meant to be a more like a dramatic build up - f00k it big grin


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glad i did sumthin right


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going back to wut sumone sed about there bein agents in the UN when sentinel man blew it up, it doesnt matter because of the kid in the scene after, so there is no reason to dispute that those could be agents, BUT! i jus thought of this...wut if the matrix UN leaders were used as the first agents? that could work, becuase they sed, "give up ur flesh and a new world awaits u" so basically "plug in n u get power" becuase they were the world leaders, so that could explain how the agents started. maybe smith was there, like, the leader for iraq or sumthin, ?? (would explain his indignance)


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smith is saddam hussein...haha..."all your bombs are belong to us..."


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lol thats rite!


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I think that the end with the agents symbolizes a false reality, or the coming of the Matrix. That's why when the child realises they arn't his parents, he is shown to be connected to the Matrix in the red pod. It's more of a symbolic representation than an underlining meaning.


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i dont think so nox, because its pretty explicit as to the order of events for my that kid. First he is playing in the snow, then he sees the agents, then he is put into the pod. OH! i have a new qestion though: How did the first humans get put into the MATRIX? They didnt have plugs to begin with obviously, so did the machines manually insert the hardware for humans? Didn't they realize how much pain the humans probably felt during this process? I wonder, becuase of the line from TSRII, "the machines felt great pity for the humans" or sumthin like that. So why would they put so many holes and so much metal inside the humans?


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Yes, they did just plug them in, manually. And it hurt like theres no tomorrow.


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OK I have Definitely got to watch that movie tonight.... I want to see what you guys are talking about (how did I not catch that the first time).


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From what I got out of the second ressiance part 2 was that the machines found most of the humans alive, and put them to sleep, with some sort of anthesia and then plugged the holes into them. Then the scene with the big machine guy/thing talking to the 'agents', who appear to be in the real world, but I think it is all in the matrix, the machine guy is the architect, but when they discovered the anamoly and a way to control the anamoly, the used a program to make the architect, who's image shell in the matrix was machine like, look more human like... did that make any sense...? The architect is a program as well, but I think it is being run by an outside machine... such as the one in SRpII, its digital self looked like a machine, but once the machines discovered the anamoly, then figuring out a way to deal with it, the architect programed an image shell for itself... is that any better? lol, I'm trying to dispute the whole MWAM thing, I think it silly! Besides the wachowski bros said that the matrix was tinted green, and the real world was tinted blue in the 1st matrix, I didn't notice it in reloaded as much, i'm sure they did it, but I'm still having to wait on the freakin' DVD!!


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no, they didn't put them to sleep, they created protein virus' that wreak havoc on our "weak protein bodies"...then, some of them, im not sure if they were leftovers or ppl that weren't killed, were put into the machines, physically plugged in for the first time. and if i remember correctly (i have to get the DVD...) they shifted the colors, so that, at some points, it was tinted green in the real, and blue in the matrix...


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ok, well, i get the whole tinting thing, but wut if the inner matrix is green the outer matrix is blue, and hey, wut if the REAL WORLD is RED?? goin off the color wheel here...


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the real world should HAVE no color, it should be natural, so if it were red, it would be another programmed reality...


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'the sky is blue' smile


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so wut if the sky is blue, that doesnt make a difference because the real world doesnt have a sky to look at. Mx 1 had a blue sky in the matrix not a green one. and the logical explanation for the blue tint of the "real world" is that the clouds make EVERYTHING kinda blue-grey, so it doesnt mean anything. dam wish i had copy of reloaded at school w/me so i could grab a screenshot or sumthin, cuz that temple place was very blue. i do agree w/the green, specifically the freeway chase.


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hey burly> that guy with the 'help' sign is me...


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indeed it is


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yeah, just because the info came from the ZION MAINFRAME, doesnt mean that ZION itslef is a program or machine, it just has a mainframe with info in it...thats it

Zion has no record of the event, becuase no one has proved it ever happened, plain and simple. Who says the machines aren't lying about the 6 time thing....who says that IF zion is a machine, then why WOULD they put that info in there.


-doh forgot page 2....my bad guys


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Just forget about MWAM please that does'nt need to be proven false, because in Revolutions it does'nt seem that if the Real World is another Matrix it would really affect the story because we all know there would be no way to get out of the Real World if it was a matrix.


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sure there would be, it just means they havent figured it out.
out of the prison cell just to realize that the barb wire is still at the top of the fence and ur naked. sacrifice everything trust no one, not even ur own mind that ur free. besides, this was about the animatrix, not the tint of the worlds lol.


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