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GambitEVOFan1
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what im saying is that they fell in love and hadnt met yet


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No, I am absolutely certain on this. You cannot find out everything about a person until you meet them. Everyone knows how dotty I was about Edna on-line but it was most assuredly NOT love before we met.

There is SO MUCH that can only be learnt in person, and true love needs to know EVERYTHING.


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No, they THOUGHT they were in love before they met, and then met and everything went great. But if they HADN'T have got on in person, what would that have said about what they THOUGHT was love before? It happens. Answer? It was false love. Happens all the time.

Sorry people. Love is reserved for those who have met and know each other inside out. Not those who have met the slightly false persona you get from someone on-line.

If I had a pound for every person who thought they were in love with a person they had never met and actually were not, I would be an incredibly rich man.


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GambitEVOFan1
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No i dont agree because i believe in love at first sight, so for me i dont need to kno everything about some one when it just feels right then i say its right


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True love, yes. But you can definately fall in love with someone over the net. Everyone is different when it comes to the way they feel and how they can connect with someone. Maybe you can't fall in love with someone over the net, but many can, and i know i did.

I sure wouldnt do it again though, it was tough, and i feel it was a mistake.


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quote:
Originally posted by Ushgarak
There is SO MUCH that can only be learnt in person, and true love needs to know EVERYTHING.


This is a bit off-topic of the subject of online relationships but I disagree with the everything part. With the first guy that I ever fell in love with, we were together for 3 years off and on and there was still so much I never knew about him. (That is why we are not together anymore, he is working on dealing with his issues.)
But now, he has confessed all of those things to me. All of those things hurt me tremendously but I forgave him and I still loved him with everything I had(still do today).
My point is that even though I didn't know everything inside and out, my love was still completely true, and I know his was too. So I don't believe that true love needs to know everything.


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Sorry, BF. I do not believe you.

There have been many couples- some at this very site- CONVINCED they were in love with another poster,- as convinced as any of you are about someone else. But when they tried to meet in real life it was a DISASTER. Your feelings of love before you met are NO different to what they felt. They would have said the same things if people had tried to tell them these things before. But now they know better. So you only think it is so, BF, because it worked out- had it not, you would be laughing at the concept.

I do not draw a line between true love and 'love'- only true love and false love, what you thought was love but was not. And I do not buy into that 'different for different people' thing. I am about as ready to fall in love as any person- I just had to bve sensible and realisitc about it. Love is the top, the maximum, the pinnacle- a pinnacle you cannot be at without meeting. And too many people have to find that out the hard way.

As for love at first sight- you are going to have some shocks in life, kiddo.

And Lindsay, you DO agree that a person cannot fall in love on-line- you said as much. And if love is not knwoing everything then it can be deceived.


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Well i can't say for sure about other people, and neither can you, i know i fell in love with my old gf online, and when we met, nothing changed, only for the better. It just made things better and increased the magnitude of our love.

I definately see where you're coming from ush, some people can't fall in love over the net. But you can't say that NO one cant. Because i did, and thats all i know.


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Originally posted by Ushgarak
As for love at first sight- you are going to have some shocks in life, kiddo.

And Lindsay, you DO agree that a person cannot fall in love on-line- you said as much. And if love is not knwoing everything then it can be deceived.


I agree with the love at first site thing. I don't want to rain on anyone's parade, but c'mon, be realistic here. What if you meet the most gorgeous man or woman you have ever seen and think you are totally in love with them, just to find out that they are some serial killer?
You're right to a point, I said I agreed that you couldn't fall in love with someone online until you have met them. In which case I tend to think anything is possible, it just depends on the person.


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Sorry, BF. I do not believe you.

There have been many couples- some at this very site- CONVINCED they were in love with another poster,- as convinced as any of you are about someone else. But when they tried to meet in real life it was a DISASTER. Your feelings of love before you met are NO different to what they felt. They would have said the same things if people had tried to tell them these things before. But now they know better. So you only think it is so, BF, because it worked out- had it not, you would be laughing at the concept.

I do not draw a line between true love and 'love'- only true love and false love, what you thought was love but was not. And I do not buy into that 'different for different people' thing. I am about as ready to fall in love as any person- I just had to bve sensible and realisitc about it. Love is the top, the maximum, the pinnacle- a pinnacle you cannot be at without meeting. And too many people have to find that out the hard way.

As for love at first sight- you are going to have some shocks in life, kiddo.

And Lindsay, you DO agree that a person cannot fall in love on-line- you said as much. And if love is not knwoing everything then it can be deceived.


yeah..I dont agree with u on this, cos my girlfriend is very sweet (to me) and I'm in love with her...(ok ok maybe u will call it "false" love) but she treats me better than most "real" girls here...if she would have lived here I would have been having a relationship with her earlier, but yeah..."god" or "faith" or whatever u might call it, found it funny to put me in holland surrounded by idiots and her in the UK... confused

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I think what people fail to realise is that there is a world of difference between loving someone, and being in love with them...


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And I am sorry for doubting you, but I have seen far too many others feel the same way before meeting, and differently afterwards, for me to really believe it. Each of them would have said before "maybe that is so for other people but not for us." They were wrong. It's tragic, but there you go.

And in any case- I always highly recommend EXTREME caution in declaring love. People are far too quick to do so normally

Well, obviously it can all work out fine after you MEET them, Lindsay! (points to own experiences)

Stefman, just because someone treats you better on-line than people you know in real life does not mean that the love is flying... sorry, but again this is something I have seen far too much before, and it has turned out badly.


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quote:
Originally posted by big gay kirk
I think what people fail to realise is that there is a world of difference between loving someone, and being in love with them...


Gah! I have always hated that idea. If people cannot appreciate that people normally use love in a casual sense ("I just LOVE my friends" for example- not to be taken literally, of course) then that is their own problem, but people who go out of their way to specify this are very often just trying to keep options open and want to get away with saying 'I love you' as much as possible.

But then again I am biased about this again by real life experienced- Edna used to hit me with that one.


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GambitEVOFan1
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Just because u dont believe in something doesnt mean its not true, who are u to judge their feelings and say that its not true love.

And dont bother trying to tell me that theres no such things as love at first sight, my sister went in for a job interview when she was 16, her boss was about 18 years older than her and she new from the second she saw him that she would marry him and wouldnt ya kno there married


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You guys I am totally with Ush on this one. (Yes I know that is a rare thing) I myself have also seen many cases where people think they are in love, they go to meet each other, and end up hating each other. It's sad, but in many cases, that is what happens.
I'm not saying it isn't possible to work something out with someone you meet over the net, just that the chances are slim to none.


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quote:
Originally posted by GambitEVOFan1
Just because u dont believe in something doesnt mean its not true, who are u to judge their feelings and say that its not true love.

And dont bother trying to tell me that theres no such things as love at first sight, my sister went in for a job interview when she was 16, her boss was about 18 years older than her and she new from the second she saw him that she would marry him and wouldnt ya kno there married


Again, you are just saying the exact same things as people before you. "Oh, how do you know, you haven;t met me, you cannot judge..." It's feeble. Your anger does not impress me- I have seen it all before, and it has turned out badly. I don;t CARE that they are married. It worked out for them- great, What about the countless people who felt the same way but it did NOT work out for? What does THAT say for love at first sight?

People need some objectivity.


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I agree that the term 'love' is used to loosely. But when i say love, i mean it, i was deeply in love with my gf before i met her, we talked all day, (not just typing mind you, using the mic, and phone as well) and id dream about her at night, she was always in my mind. When we met, those feelings just blew up, and got even stronger.

I'm well aware of other peoples follies when it comes to online relationships, but the term 'to each his own' comes to mind here. What may work for some people, wont necessarily work for others. So just because there are definate questionable aspects of online dating, it is impossible to say that falling in love over the internet is NEVER going to happen, that is generalizing which is never a good thing.

I was certainly skeptical about the whole thing when it happened to me. For the longest time, i swore that i was just infatuated with her, but then after months, i realized infatuation isnt this strong, and rarely lasts as long as my feelings lasted for her, even before we met. It was love, for me...and I cannot speak for anyone else, let alone EVERYONE else, and neither can you.


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All that means is and u said it urself., it just didnt work out, does not mean it wasnt love. And i think u are ignorant for not seeing this for different points of view, especially if u have hear this from other people before and not just me. Everyone is different we act different,we look different, we fall in love different. dont judge others just because u dont think u could fall in love at first sight or over the net. I dont think i could fall in love over the net either but im not saying no one can.


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And I am sorry, but like I say, I have seen it go wrong far too many times- for people who felt the SAME WAY as you- to believe in it. As they felt the same way, the 'each to his own' argument cuts no ice.

Here is what is happening- people who THINK they are in love meet and then fall in love. Because they thought they were in love before and then actually are afterwards, they see it as an unbroken line.

But the countless people for who it did NOT work for are proof of the opposite- and to write it off as 'other people are different' is very short-sighted.

Also, your description of love worries me- that is simple obsession you describe there. I hope no-one gets the impression here that constantly talking to someone and being unable to get them out of your mind is in any way love.


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And I am sorry, but like I say, I have seen it go wrong far too many times- for people who felt the SAME WAY as you- to believe in it. As they felt the same way, the 'each to his own' argument cuts no ice.

Here is what is happening- people who THINK they are in love meet and then fall in love. Becuase they thought they were in love before and then actually are afterwards, they see it as an unbroken line.

But the countless people for who it did NOT work for are proof of the opposite- and to write it off as 'other people are different' is very short-sighted.


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