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Everything was already said. I’ve given counter arguments to any of those points. I’ve also expressed my standpoint on Hulk’s durability, Juggernaut’s invulnerability, the holding back/not holding back etc. etc. No offense, but let me know if you have something new.
I will say this, though: Maybe Juggernaut is too stubborn to admit that he was bested in strength, during the match? It seem more like Juggernaut was trying to comfort himself. Almost as if he we’re saying “Yeah, you bested me, but I’m the Juggernaut, *****! Nothing can stop me and nothing ever will! So there, I feel better now!”.
He was giving him a good fight, until Hulk casually knocked him out of sight, thinking(wanting) the battle to be over. After that, he jumped on top of him. Besides, that match wasn’t the first time they met. Hours before the fight, they were teaming up. Juggernaut knew his abilities. And couldn’t have held back. He may be cocky enough to not go all out, but he didn’t pull his punches. Mostly because he know full well that Hulk isn’t physically weaker than him at all.
That's all nice, but Thor should be able to easily hold his own against him.
Colossus can hold his own against Juggernaut, Thor can hold his own against Hulk. Hulk can cream Colossus. Juggernaut.....etc. etc. Warped logic this may be, but if that's what you're going by....
Thats right he was comforting himself that he got thrown especially when he seemed ready to go and still attack him without a second thought.
Yeah but even still what evidence is there that Cain was even remotly worried during the entire match that Hulk would beat him oh wait nothing thats waht.
qhy should that be true at all. Thor can't hurt him with anything and Cain has just as myuch strength if not more why should he be worried about Thor.
Secondly Colossus never Hangs with Juggs he manages to sometimes use his speed and agaility and smaller size to get a small adavanage but he never hangs with Cain in fistocuffs. In fact the first time Cain actually hit him he went down like a sack of bricks so your idea is flawed as Colossus never gives Cain a decent fight and never holds his own.
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Secondly Colossus never Hangs with Juggs he manages to sometimes use his speed and agaility and smaller size to get a small adavanage but he never hangs with Cain in fistocuffs. In fact the first time Cain actually hit him he went down like a sack of bricks so your idea is flawed as Colossus never gives Cain a decent fight and never holds his own. [/B][/QUOTE]
But if Colossus with deeply inferior strength can knock him flat a few times, eventough he gets up immediately, then Thor can do it easier. He's faster and much, much stronger than Colossus.
But if Colossus with deeply inferior strength can knock him flat a few times, eventough he gets up immediately, then Thor can do it easier. He's faster and much, much stronger than Colossus. [/B][/QUOTE] He does it a few times as well when he has back up to help him distract Cain. The only real one one match they had Colossus was able to avoid Cain some but he never knocked Cain down or fazed him at all. same thing with Thor he could push Cain around if Cain was busy say fighting someone else. But the truth is whenever he fights these people one on one they really don't faze him at all maybe knock him around a little but nothing big.
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He does it a few times as well when he has back up to help him distract Cain. The only real one one match they had Colossus was able to avoid Cain some but he never knocked Cain down or fazed him at all. same thing with Thor he could push Cain around if Cain was busy say fighting someone else. But the truth is whenever he fights these people one on one they really don't faze him at all maybe knock him around a little but nothing big. [/B][/QUOTE]
You mean they don't hurt/injure him? That's a given. But Thor really SHOULD prove a match for him in terms of pure strength.
No they don't match up with him he can hit them harder seemingly causing them to go for loops like when Cain casually backhands Thor for Blocks without much effort because Thor got in his way.
That's nice, but Hulk can withstand that as well, like I originally said.
He wasn't weakened, he was knocked down. From being atacked from behind, no less.
Faulty logic. Thing doesn't have Hulk's durability and Stranger just isn't what he's made out to be.
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I can't believe you read that either. Then again, you have shown yourself to be a poor reader before. But that seems to be the case with a lot of Juggernaut fans.
That goes to you as well. Me for example a loads back brought proof, wrote bunch. You read what you want of it then you reply. I don't know if it's like that, but I feel like it.
No I didn't, I read the post you posted, in which you said in your own words,
"The reason why Hulk doesn't defeat thing in once punch is because it would be a classic battle, You as a Hulk fan would not want to see that, it doesn't mean much. "
Your basically implying that because Juggernaut was a villain, KOing the likes of thing, and Stranger, and Manhandling Thor didn't count for much because they wouldn't be classic battles.
But I promise you if he did KO them one Punch you would be the first to Jump up and go "OMG TEH HuKL P0WNz0r Thigyn 1N 0n3 Punch".
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What are you talking about? If I misinterpret something(which happens to anybody), I'll have myself corrected. Apolloknight, on the other hand, may or may not read my or anyone's rebuttal and then proceeds to ignore it, so that he can make a cheap remark.
Anyway, what "bunch" and what "proof"? In this thread?
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I already told you that I was talking about indivual feats and their questional indication of hierachy. Gladiator was defeated by Hulk, Juggernaut got owned. Juggernaut defeated Stranger with one punch, Hulk had a harder time with him. Thing stood up to champion, Thor, Sasquatch and Colossus were handily defeated. I'm not doubting any of these individual feats, I'm doubting that it proofs that someone else CAN'T do it because they failed on another occasion. It simply doesn't mean anything in a debate, because comics are inconsequent. Bringing up feats is useless when the standards are varying. Notice how I'm not placing the blame on any particular character....
I know you think I offended your precious Juggernaut, but try reading the whole discussion. And if I didn't make myself clear enough with my words(which is possible), you could als try to make out the context by yourself.
no, it true look it up the blob no one can move him unless ge wants to be move he beat colusses. first episode of x-men the 80 verison not the 90 version. the episode was called pride of the x-men
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