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Juggernaut or The Hulk?
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Brutacus
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aha well they can take it both, but with these to guy's I think it looks more like a stalemate.
Than that one off them would beat the other bad.

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The two points I am trying to make are that Juggernaut does have the strength to KO the Hulk within a short time if he is truly out for blood and the second point is if somehow Hulk manages to fight through it and becomes strong enough to fight back, he will never reach the strength needed to hurt Juggernaut. EVEN if somehow he did, Juggernaut has instant regeneration that would just make him feel as though the fight just started again. Hulk cannot BFR Juggernaut because his shield or something in his magic powers allows him to walk through space and back to the battlefied even if it takes a while. Hulk cannot move through space and come back if juggernaut was to throw him. Hulk cannot hope for a win against Juggernaut. He is just the brick to end all bricks. Hulk wins only if professor pops out of his ass and KOs juggernaut.

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While looking in the Hulk respect thread i could find no proof of him being able to fight for years. I also found scans of him fighting Juggernauts son. Now it seemed Juggernaut was demolitioning him until he stopped to see if the Hulk was hurt. I assume this juggernaut is weaker than classic juggs. I believe the fight would happen just like that except the real Juggs wouldnt stop and just keep beating him down until he is Kod or dead.

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Originally posted by TheDecider
While looking in the Hulk respect thread i could find no proof of him being able to fight for years. I also found scans of him fighting Juggernauts son. Now it seemed Juggernaut was demolitioning him until he stopped to see if the Hulk was hurt. I assume this juggernaut is weaker than classic juggs. I believe the fight would happen just like that except the real Juggs wouldnt stop and just keep beating him down until he is Kod or dead.



Its basically Hulk fans Threoy he could fight for years, adrenaline can only take you so far ya know.

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come on dude it's a comic for **** sake's everything that normaly couldn't happen can happen in a comic,
It's fiction not really never will happen.
You can not compare normal adrenaline, with that of the hulk same as with his anger, people say there is a limit to it while stan lee said hulk's emotion doesn't work the same way as a normal humans emotion.

And read Hulk the end, he survived a few months in a cave without food or water.

so he would be able to keep on fighting iff he needed to iff he was angry enough.
Calm state sure he would turn back in to banner.

And killing hulk by brute force alone is not possible his healing factor would keep him from dying.
It's stated that his healing factor is one off the greatest in marvel comics iff not the greatest.

So this is rather a stalemate than a win for one off them.

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Still no proof of him fighting for years and years which is what the fight would last. Hulks anger realises adreniline to keep him alive? Does he have infinite adreniline? I don think so, im sure he has to have energy to produce it after a long time.

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Originally posted by TheDecider
Still no proof of him fighting for years and years which is what the fight would last. Hulks anger realises adreniline to keep him alive? Does he have infinite adreniline? I don think so, im sure he has to have energy to produce it after a long time.



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The Hulk can go days or weeks without food or rest. IH #275
http://img29.exs.cx/img29/7633/Stamina2.jpg

The Hulk fights for 11 hours straight, using up enough power to exhaust a reactor, and isn't even breathing hard. IH #184
http://img147.exs.cx/img147/7043/stamina7a5ka.jpg
http://img147.exs.cx/img147/657/stamina7b8fa.jpg

The Hulk fights the hordes of Hel non-stop for days. IH #423
http://img226.echo.cx/img226/4408/stamina63qe.jpg

Without rest or food and with a symbiote sapping energy from him, the Hulk exerts himself for weeks. IH Annual #13
http://img128.exs.cx/img128/9913/Stamina4.jpg
http://img128.exs.cx/img128/5642/Stamina4a.jpg

The Hulk does not slow down even after 3000 non-stop punches.
http://img29.exs.cx/img29/2092/Stamina.jpg


From a Hulk Respect thread. Not the one here, but they are probably in there.


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I said proof of years not months... and please your just looking at small parts of my posts not even reading everything. No one seems like they can prove a win for hulk but still go with him for no reason.

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I said proof of years not months... and please your just looking at small parts of my posts not even reading everything. No one seems like they can prove a win for hulk but still go with him for no reason.


So You think after 11 months Hulk is going to drop suddenly? He pulls massive amounts of mass and energy from another dimension or something but it has to stop even when he's shown to have unlimited strength?

If you want to be that technical how many times has Juggs fought for years at a time? I'm not saying he can't I'm just asking how many times he's been in Fights that last years.

His powerset says he can handle it though, just as Hulk's does even if he hasn't fought that long in the past.

And I read all that was in the post I replied to. If he's able to pull sustinence to keep his body going at that level for that long what's a little neurochemical? I figured the scans spoke for themselves and that point would be made.

Eh, I'll get the answer to this tomorrow *Sleeps*


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So apparantly Hulk now has the power of unlimited durability. Well then its either an early win for juggernaut or a stalemate where they fight until the end of time(unless hulk ages which i have no idea)

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Originally posted by Apolloknight
Its basically Hulk fans Threoy he could fight for years, adrenaline can only take you so far ya know.


It's theory only because never had to fight for years. But it makes sense, as the adrenaline sustains him, which allows him to keep producing adrenaline. Think about it. It makes sense.

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Originally posted by TheDecider
So apparantly Hulk now has the power of unlimited durability. Well then its either an early win for juggernaut or a stalemate where they fight until the end of time(unless hulk ages which i have no idea)


You mean stamina. His durability increases geometrically with his strength.

If you had been paying attention, you would've known that a stalmate is exactly what's being argued here.

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that dude is to full of himself to first read the whole thread, or to read what others post.

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Originally posted by Apolloknight
Its basically Hulk fans Threoy he could fight for years, adrenaline can only take you so far ya know.

He just needs to stay angry to keep fighting, which as I said will be easy to do as long as Cain keeps coming back to fight.
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Still no proof of him fighting for years and years which is what the fight would last. Hulks anger realises adreniline to keep him alive? Does he have infinite adreniline? I don think so, im sure he has to have energy to produce it after a long time.

He's never had to fight for years. I don't know the complete science behind how his body works, but hey, it's comic books.
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So apparantly Hulk now has the power of unlimited durability. Well then its either an early win for juggernaut or a stalemate where they fight until the end of time(unless hulk ages which i have no idea)

I know this is sarcasm, but it's exactly what I've been saying since I got here.

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Juggernaut vs Hulk pics

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Cab anyone find the pics of juggernaut nearly killing hulk, in the issue where he fights him in casual clothes?

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He didn't come close to killing him, he just knocked him out. I believe you'll find the scans in the Juggernaut Respect Thread.

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He didn't come close to killing him, he just knocked him out. I believe you'll find the scans in the Juggernaut Respect Thread.


That's really debatable. He had Hulk completely KOed. A few more class 100 poundings to the face very well could've killed him. But, as we both know, it was stopped before that could happen. You very well could call it "killing", since Juggy didn't appear to be stopping under his own power.


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That's really debatable. He had Hulk completely KOed. A few more class 100 poundings to the face very well could've killed him. But, as we both know, it was stopped before that could happen. You very well could call it "killing", since Juggy didn't appear to be stopping under his own power.

Hulk's had every bone in his body broken before, as well as his brain stems damaged. He came back just fine from both of these injuries.

Some hundred Cl100 punches would do some damage, but they wouldn't kill him.

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