I still believe that we become good or evil, by society, we are born neutral the way we end up to be, depends on what happens to us in life.
also there is almost no way of knowing.
If I may take some freedom on this, don't attack nor quote me on this.
Man is still an animal, ofcourse we are more intelligent and things like that. But in fact when it really counts, our adrenaline takes over and we behave not very different from animals, as in when it is killed or be killed everyone will kill, EXCEPT FOR A FEW EXCEPTIONS, BUT NOT MANY. When it is kill or die, we will kill, Every mother would go crazy in order to protect her child, as a group humans display a very big FLOCK(sp) mentality (like a bunch of sheep).
So if humans behave like animals when adrenaline kick's in
you might say that humans who weren't influenced by civilization or even other humans (which would know the difference between good and evil) would be very much like animals
and have you ever met a truly evil or truly good animal?
if anyone gets this, Cool, if not don't bother reading it twice, it aint totaly correct since I just came up with this and this english aint that good either
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So we are evaluating are people born good or evil, what about both? but to use the word evil in this context may be a 'tad bit' OTT, prime example look at young children, children just grasping on to the basics of life and im not just referring to talking and walking but also learning to grasp their emotions, children particuarly of a young age can be rather nasty but at the same time they can be good, i don't think people are born good or evil rather they gain these emotions as they journey through life, everyone has both positive and negative emotions to express some people carry these emotions further then others be it for postive or negative reasons.
Philosophical enquiry huh? Human evil or good hmmmm... according to Socialism and Communism theory the explotation of Capitalism over the proletariat is evil!! Therefore I think humanity is doing a fine job at doing evil.
Well, you gotta see it this way...when you put on your brand new Nike shoes or buy a new boom box just remenber that some poor workers manufacture it somewhere in a sweat shop someplace.
every one is born little babarians, its called sin, says so in the bible, that why as a child we are giuded diciplined and corrected, we wouldnt have groundings if we were born good
A) just cause it says so in the bible doesn't make it true
B) when we are a child we are influenced by society, so you never know wether or not a child is born good or bad.
again as defence that ppl are born neutral, look at babies from a few weeks old, ever met an evil baby? prolly not, ever met a good baby, prolly not-good does NOT equal cute
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Indeed, there is a good deal of questioning to this argument!
Let's start off by pretending that Christianity is valid, shall we? You've just argued that God is unjust - that He would punish the entirety of mankind for the sins of another, dead for several millenia. Oddly, this validates Christianity, supporting the claim that humanity was created in His image - that of an unjust man.
Now then, the specific statement is Romans 5:12, which in the King James Version states, "Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men." This says not that all men are by nature evil or unjust, but simply that we are all born with this single sin on our record. Are we to believe that every man is wholly unjust because of Adam? Was the apostle Paul evil when he wrote that? The Pope? Jesus?
With all of that being said, of course, the Bible wouldn't have any less truth to it if it were written by Jim Jones.
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Last edited by Complicated on Nov 19th, 2003 at 10:02 PM
It depends. What is good and what is evil. In modern society, we deem some actions as evil such as killing others. What if in another society, killing was part of their culture. Would killing be considered evil in that case?
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We are all born morally neutral, and our upbringing/friends/family/etc, etc. influence us to swing from side to another. I myself have remained neutral
I believe we are all born good, no child is born with hate, is the ways of their parents, peers, and all influences that turns them into hateful, spiteful people, if you are too young to comprehend anything how cna you comprehend hate or anyother act?
So... Good is now a default quality? The lack of hatred or evil is not goodness but apathy - a quality which, at best, could be described as not bad. Much as the child would not be born with the desire to kill his or her mother, the child would not wish to make her happy, or take a bullet. Those, too, are notions formed through conditioning.
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