KillerMovies - Movies That Matter!

REGISTER HERE TO JOIN IN! - It's easy and it's free!
Home » Community » General Discussion Forum » Philosophy Forum » Philosophy: People born good or evil?

People born good or evil?
You do not have permission to vote on this poll.
Good (Lock's idea) 19 37.25%
Evil (Hobbes idea) 12 23.53%
im not sure. 20 39.22%
Total: 51 votes 100%
  [Edit Poll (moderators only)]

Philosophy: People born good or evil?
Started by: hh?

Forum Jump:
Post New Thread    Post A Reply
Pages (8): « First ... « 6 7 [8]   Last Thread   Next Thread
Author
Thread
FistOfThe North
The Fist of the North

Gender: Male
Location: United States, Earth

"The darkest souls are not those which choose to exist within the hell of the abyss, but those which choose to break free from the abyss and move silently amoung us."

-- Dr. Samuel Loomis


__________________
The Governments of the world are not run by offices or "the people". They're run by corporations. And those corporations are run by a program. And that program has control of everything. The media, the money, the technology. And some of the personages within that program, are not us, but extraterrestrial.

- Alex Collier Interview

Old Post Apr 12th, 2009 06:51 PM
FistOfThe North is currently offline Click here to Send FistOfThe North a Private Message Find more posts by FistOfThe North Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote Quick Quote
Cost Mic.
Restricted

Gender:
Location: Frozen Food section

Account Restricted

Could they be born both?

Old Post Apr 13th, 2009 05:41 AM
Cost Mic. is currently offline Click here to Send Cost Mic. a Private Message Find more posts by Cost Mic. Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote Quick Quote
Placidity
Chief Executive Officer

Gender: Unspecified
Location: Germany

Evil. People are always trying to be good. You don't need to try to do bad.


__________________

Old Post Apr 16th, 2009 12:18 PM
Placidity is currently offline Click here to Send Placidity a Private Message Find more posts by Placidity Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote Quick Quote
deej
Member

Gender: Male
Location: Australia

People are born into a society that is riddled with the public deeds of both good and evil. I believe that every little experience in a persons life alters the outcome of the future, no matter how small or insignificant. People are born innocent and clean and are neutral to their surroundings. However, they are a sponge and depending on what they are fated to be exposed to will determine the nature of their persona. Having said this, I also believe there is a balance in the world and for every good deed done, a negative one must happen. Without this balance we could not exist as a society. Human nature is to strive for the better, to gain control and to archive through suffering and perseverance. How would this be possible in a world of only good? Lastly I would like to ask the definition of an evil person. How many wrong doings puts a person into this category and how can we justify judging them. Only when we know their motives and life experiences can we know what they chose to be evil...


__________________
http://img150.imageshack.us/img150/2522/deejuw6.gif
Thanks Thekingofkings

Old Post May 17th, 2009 03:35 AM
deej is currently offline Click here to Send deej a Private Message Find more posts by deej Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote Quick Quote
Ace of Knaves
Restricted

Gender: Male
Location: The End of the World

Account Restricted

The definition of evil, as I have most commonly seen it exercised by pundants, politicians and the media, is when a person thinks, believes or acts contrary to the beliefs of the person making the assesment. Being an American I'll proceed from the typical views expressed by many Americans. Politicians and religious leaders make haste in using the term evil to describe many people who operate without considering how it will effect American interests. Many Americans call "the terrorists" evil because they "want to destroy America and our way of life". However, in justifying our own actions in response to their actions, we bomb a village and kill 130 innocent civilians. To the families of those people, America has just commited an act of evil. This leads many of them to become "terrorists" because they see our action as evil. To us, they are "terrorists" because they're evil and want to take our freedom, with little consideration of how our actions motivated them. Evil as it is used by most people is often the end result of an entire series of wrongs inflicted on both sides by the other. Evil as it's used in common language is a term to describe anyone that doesn't believe exactly the same as the person pointing the finger. Jesus got this when he talked about casting the first stone. (Although he had a religious overtone to the point he was making) Ghandi too, with his eye for an eye comments.

If I had to personally define evil, the only term I could use to describe it would be total apathy; not caring how our actions effect others or how our lack of action allows others to be harmed.

Last edited by Ace of Knaves on May 19th, 2009 at 10:48 PM

Old Post May 19th, 2009 10:46 PM
Ace of Knaves is currently offline Click here to Send Ace of Knaves a Private Message Find more posts by Ace of Knaves Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote Quick Quote
deej
Member

Gender: Male
Location: Australia

quote: (post)
Originally posted by Ace of Knaves
The definition of evil, as I have most commonly seen it exercised by pundants, politicians and the media, is when a person thinks, believes or acts contrary to the beliefs of the person making the assesment. Being an American I'll proceed from the typical views expressed by many Americans. Politicians and religious leaders make haste in using the term evil to describe many people who operate without considering how it will effect American interests. Many Americans call "the terrorists" evil because they "want to destroy America and our way of life". However, in justifying our own actions in response to their actions, we bomb a village and kill 130 innocent civilians. To the families of those people, America has just commited an act of evil. This leads many of them to become "terrorists" because they see our action as evil. To us, they are "terrorists" because they're evil and want to take our freedom, with little consideration of how our actions motivated them. Evil as it is used by most people is often the end result of an entire series of wrongs inflicted on both sides by the other. Evil as it's used in common language is a term to describe anyone that doesn't believe exactly the same as the person pointing the finger. Jesus got this when he talked about casting the first stone. (Although he had a religious overtone to the point he was making) Ghandi too, with his eye for an eye comments.

If I had to personally define evil, the only term I could use to describe it would be total apathy; not caring how our actions effect others or how our lack of action allows others to be harmed.




Nicely put wink


__________________
http://img150.imageshack.us/img150/2522/deejuw6.gif
Thanks Thekingofkings

Old Post May 20th, 2009 06:01 AM
deej is currently offline Click here to Send deej a Private Message Find more posts by deej Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote Quick Quote
CATMANEXE
Senior Member

Gender: Male
Location: your mother.

ez. by the textbook definition, yes. we are "born" evil. how many 1-3 year olds do you see practicing control and strong moral fiber? none of course. but we dont mind so its not a bad thing. then they grow and screw up alot but everyone tries to fit into some form of what they perceive as right, even self-proclaimed even if unaware. the adulthood version of evil however. very lost. people say others are evil out of fear and their own weakness when theyre older.
but born, yeah. or as a differant perspective might put it being natural, because lets face it, trying to become something is only fleeing from who you are to who you are not.


__________________
"We are turning into a nation of whimpering slaves to Fear—fear of war, fear of poverty, fear of random terrorism, fear of getting down-sized or fired because of the plunging economy, fear of getting evicted for bad debts or suddenly getting locked up in a military detention camp on vague charges of being a Terrorist sympathizer."
-Hunter S. Thompson
—"Extreme Behavior in Aspen," February 3, 2003

Old Post May 20th, 2009 11:44 AM
CATMANEXE is currently offline Click here to Send CATMANEXE a Private Message Find more posts by CATMANEXE Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote Quick Quote
Laura Palmer
S&M

Gender: Female
Location: Terra

Um, neither? People do not born good or evil, it's the society and life experiences which form their personality.

Old Post Jun 3rd, 2009 02:15 AM
Laura Palmer is currently offline Click here to Send Laura Palmer a Private Message Find more posts by Laura Palmer Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote Quick Quote
All times are UTC. The time now is 12:48 AM.
Pages (8): « First ... « 6 7 [8]   Last Thread   Next Thread

Home » Community » General Discussion Forum » Philosophy Forum » Philosophy: People born good or evil?

Email this Page
Subscribe to this Thread
   Post New Thread  Post A Reply

Forum Jump:
Search by user:
 

Forum Rules:
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
HTML code is OFF
vB code is ON
Smilies are ON
[IMG] code is ON

Text-only version
 

< - KillerMovies.com - Forum Archive - Forum Rules >


© Copyright 2000-2006, KillerMovies.com. All Rights Reserved.
Powered by: vBulletin, copyright ©2000-2006, Jelsoft Enterprises Limited.