1) Vader didn't told that
2) An unused script isn't the same as the movie
3) That is enough proof against you
The Sith aren't stupid: look at the manipulating Palpa!
If they got the whole gal against them, it would mean there death.
And you can say that they need to know where someone is, you need to concentrate your 'choke' to a specified place. So a vidscreen isn't enough
No one could kill someone from across the galaxy. Remember Yoda. He levitated a X-Wing from 100 feet away, and it wore him out. Picking something up and squeezing something is surely the same fore-technique, just different motives. Therefore, no matter how powerful olde Palpy is, there is NO WAY he could kill someone halfway across the galaxy. Sorry.
Yoda had a lot of MC's but Palpa could stay hidden for many years, now THAT is power. So it still is possible for him.
Ush, there isn't much evidence, but it is pretty logic that when you're loosing big time and suddenly the shield drop down, you go for the error that got them killed in ANH
Hey, it was pretty late last night
I think that I ment was:
Yoda had a lot of MC's but Palpa could stay hidden for many years, now THAT is power. So it still is possible for him to do great stuff, thinks you wouldn't think of
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Well, we have already established that staying hidden has nothing to do with sheer power; simply a natural combination of the Dark Side being hard to see, Palpatine's intelligence and that you cannot just sense 'evil'.
Though as to Palpatine being very powerful... well, of course.
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And it seems that the best part of his power is that he dosent have to use it. (untill the very end)
I think thats cool and sinister at the same time. Just think if you saw the films in 2005 in order for the first time ever. (If Palpy dosent use his powers in the PT) the whole time wondering how much power he had and how we was to use it. Then seeing him zap Luke like a microwave! That would make that scene very powerfull!!
His over confidence was his weakness, as I wise Jedi once told me.
That was a joke Ush.
Yerrsot if what you say is right then in ANH when Vader found out where the rebel base was, why didn't he just go and sit in his big chair and choke them all while safely aboard the Death Star?
I think that you first need to know where EXACTLY someone is, because you need to concentrate the force around a neck that (in most cases) isn't THAT big. If you know how fast an x-wing or whatever is, that is impossible.
You can question yourself for anh: Vader followed with the DS, so he didn't know where they were. So he couldn't choke them.
In ESB he stays aboard his ships. He only comes down after the battle, when everyone is away. He didn't do it in battle because of the reason above for the ships. For the base, he didn't know where they were, same reason above.
Rotj: he was concentrating on Luke, so he couldn't choke someone, otherwhise it was byebye Vader.
TPM: he was just a little kid
AOTC: I hope he does something bad!
The WHOLE discussion is that that is NOT neccesarry.
They need to know where someone is if they want to do that.
The defence/attack ?? that I have is that the Force is everywhere as Yoda told Luke in ESB, so when the Force is everywhere and you know where exactly someone is, you have all the ingredients to choke one from a distance.
In AOTC Palpatine is trying to kill Padme and he sends assasins after her. Why doesn't he choke her himself? He knows where she lives. He could sit in his appartment and kill all his political enemies one by one without breaking sweat.
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I KNOW it was a joke, KJ. Sheesh! What I said wasn't exactly serious, you know! Just talk to Yerssot about it.
Meanwhile, you and I are in broad agreement that w3hat Yersot is saying is nonsense.
Now, I really must insist that something NEW be bought to this argument before it becomes another pointless load of 'yes they can/not they can't/yes they can', at which point I close it.
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If anyone can think of examples when someone could choke another one, give them and I will explain them, if I can't explain them then I must admit I'm wrong.
KJ: Jedi don't do that: they use the Force for knowledge and defence, not for killing
For the first thing you said: simple: watch the movie!!!!
1) opening lines: the supreme chancelor valorum SECRETLY dispatched....
2) "You didn't tell him about the missing Jedi." "No need to do that, untill we have something to report."
So Sidi DIDN'T knew about them, when he did they weren't there anymore.
For the second thing: Maul only saw the rebels, he didin't saw the jedi, because he was standing near the TF-big shots.(he was watching the screen+the Jedi were moving around)
They didn't saw them so he didn't saw them. When Maul began to battle them he had to concentrate on the battle.
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