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rysdigital
the end has come
Gender: Unspecified Location: Netherlands |
the father and mother of Sati weren't going to be deleted why would they?
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Nov 8th, 2003 09:37 PM |
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The Unknown
Anomaly
Gender: Male Location: 01 |
They weren't. They just returned to their jobs in the Machine World, leaving the Matrix forever.
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Nov 8th, 2003 10:05 PM |
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JediHDM
Jedi of the Matrix
Gender: Male Location: United States |
Yes, that is correct. I originally thought of them as programs, and they were trying to get Sati into the real world, however, i then realized it was the reverse, they were bringing her INTO the matrix....
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Nov 8th, 2003 10:24 PM |
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rysdigital
the end has come
Gender: Unspecified Location: Netherlands |
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Nov 8th, 2003 10:26 PM |
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TeddyBear
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Gender: Location: United States |
This may seem like a dumb question, but why wouldn't Neo destroy Rama and his wife if he knew they worked for the machines?
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Nov 8th, 2003 11:01 PM |
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The Unknown
Anomaly
Gender: Male Location: 01 |
Yeah, that kinda is a dumb question, lol.
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Nov 8th, 2003 11:09 PM |
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JediHDM
Jedi of the Matrix
Gender: Male Location: United States |
Neo didnt destroy Ramakandra and Kamala because he did not need to, he is trying to save humanity, and he has been told MULTIPLE times that humans and machines need to work together for a future to happen.
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Nov 9th, 2003 12:34 AM |
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anomaly12
The Chosen One
Gender: Male Location: New Delhi, India |
Another dumb question ........wat is the machine world actually?is it another program? is it a mainframe computer? if not then how cud the two programs be going there? isnt mobil ave the place between the matrix and the REAL WORLD? so only people coming to or going from the real world wud visit the place? then how were rama and his family there? they cant go to the real world, they are programs!
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JediHDM> Vishnu's Avatar was called Ramachandra........agreed. but the name Rama Kandra just doesnt sound proper.thats why i think it is rama chandra.never mind i'll watch the movie again and confirm.
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Nov 9th, 2003 11:28 AM |
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Mordecai
I am the way.
Gender: Unspecified Location: Australia |
Well there are things that happen in the movie that suggests the real world is in fact just another part of the matrix.
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that you can't take part; you can't even passively take part, and you've got to
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and you've got to make it stop. And you've got to indicate to the people who run it,
to the people who own it, that unless you're free, the machine will be prevented from working at all!" - Mario Savio
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Nov 9th, 2003 11:33 AM |
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The Omega
Z10N0101
Gender: Female Location: Denmark |
Mordecai> There’s actually no longer ANYTHING that indicates there is a Matrix within the Matrix.
The Machine City (01) lies somewhere on the Arabian Peninsula (see Animatrix) in the real world. Just as Zion is in the real world.
The Trainman is like a computer-bus. Mobil Ave is like your computer trashcan if you like. Things aren’t deleted yet, but not IN the Matrix anymore. Nor in the real world. And if a program, which is NOT part of the Matrix, wishes to enter the Matrix, it has to gain access somehow.
01 would have a multitude of programs running, that have nothing to do with the Matrix at all.
And the Indian Man’s name in Revolutions IS Rama Kandra (Check the cast listings).
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Nov 9th, 2003 03:20 PM |
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audioheem
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Gender: Male Location: The Machine World |
It's cool coz in the song Navras, they say "Shanti.." which means PEACE.
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Nov 9th, 2003 03:43 PM |
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anomaly12
The Chosen One
Gender: Male Location: New Delhi, India |
audioheem> i gave u the translation of the whole shloka they say(see my first post). i believe all of it is really cool.
The Omega> if 01 is in the real world, then how can programs be living there? if some programs arent part of the matrix then wat r they part of? is there anything else to be part of,for programs?
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Nov 9th, 2003 04:42 PM |
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The Omega
Z10N0101
Gender: Female Location: Denmark |
Anomaly12> I’m not sure I understand your question.
01 would have machines running around to do various tasks, and they’d have programs for those tasks. The machine world, is a society, just like we have, now, a human society. The matrix is used to keep the power-sources dormant, and that power goes to 01 (the power-cables Neo see at Mobil Ave).
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"That includes ruining Halloween because someone swallowed a Bible."
"I just thought you were a guy."
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Nov 9th, 2003 05:21 PM |
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Clavis
HOT
Gender: Female Location: in the middle of nowhere |
[spoiler] Sati!
Hi guys just went to see revos and... a few points.
the oracle learns sati to bake cookies perhaps she is a new form of the oracle!!!
Could Sati be a back-up one? She changed the sky and stuff in the end
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Nov 9th, 2003 05:23 PM |
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Clavis
HOT
Gender: Female Location: in the middle of nowhere |
omg this was supposed to be a topic!!!
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Nov 9th, 2003 05:53 PM |
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TeddyBear
Member
Gender: Location: United States |
>Anomaly, the machines rely on programs in the real world just as they use them in the matrix. The machines need to be programmed to do things. Rama says he's systems manager of something in the real world(i forget what exactly), that means he is the program that governs it.
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Nov 9th, 2003 06:01 PM |
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The Unknown
Anomaly
Gender: Male Location: 01 |
anomaly12, think of the internet being the Matrix and your computer being the Machine World. You can download programs from the internet and use them on your computer, such as AOL and games. That is what they're doing in Revolutions.
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"The MTV Movie Awards are a systemic anomaly inherent to the programming of the Matrix. Although the transport process has altered your consciousness, you irrevocably remain human. Ergo, concordantly, vis-a-vis... You know what? I have no idea what the hell I'm saying. I just thought it would make me sound cool."
-The Architect AKA Larry
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Nov 9th, 2003 08:16 PM |
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lemon
Junior Member
Gender: Location: United States |
Sati is an incarnation of Lakshmi, and is married to rama-kandra (either spelling) who is an incarnation of Vishnu, and Kamala is an incarnation of Kali who is the goddess of transformation and death, she is also referred to as the universal mother.
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Nov 10th, 2003 07:00 PM |
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lemon
Junior Member
Gender: Location: United States |
There is no reason to believe that they are going to be deleted. I think they even say that they are returning to their world w/o Sati. Rama Kandra says that he is in charge of reinsertion or something like that, and that Kamala is a very creative programmer...
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Nov 10th, 2003 07:04 PM |
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JediHDM
Jedi of the Matrix
Gender: Male Location: United States |
No, lemon, unless the spelling doesn't change the name, the incarnation of Lakshmi is Kamala or Sita, not Sati...and it makes sense, cause Ramachandra and kamala were husband and wife, incarnations of Vishnu and Lakshmi...
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Nov 10th, 2003 08:52 PM |
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