So, by your logic, Jimi Hendrix, Tom Morello, Slash, and Lenny Kravitz all should have been rappers. And Eminem, Brother Ali, Sage Francis, and John Smith, since they're white, all should have been in rock bands...
Gender: Male Location: Huntington Beach, California
alright I've finally bothered to read this entire thread...and all i can say is wow.
1st. I want to apologize for the racist remark, it wasn't meant to be a "only blacks can do rap" type message, it was more about getting a grasp on who you are...as in how you portray yourself.
It's one thing to like hip hop it's an entirely different thing to lower the manor in which you speak in order to further fit in with the scene that you hang out in. I've heard enough people in this thread drop "aight dog" and "homie" to realize enough time in this thread could actually lower your intelligence.
I like how Hockey spends the opening 8 pages of the thread saying how much he likes Lloyd Banks and how he keeps asking what people think of him only to say...
at the end of his posts. Didn't he just post ripping me a new ass-hole because of how bad Eminem sucks?? That, MF D00M...is IRONY.
Please explain. So Masta Ace raps about his screwed up relationship with his mother, his drug addicted wife, and his drug problems. If so...then you're correct....NO, I didn't know that, and can you honestly give me one legitament reason why I would want to know that? k..
Ever heard of Amoeba Records? yah I've been there once or twice. Mostly there to collect some old school vinyl albums for my friend's birthday, and to further my classic rock collection...but yah, I've been to Tower, Virgin, Amoeba....and a couple of mom n pop type stores that had ALLLL of the underground stuff you guys are discussing....granted I felt out of place in the store.
and exactly who are you to say that isn't a good song? It's catchy...sure it doesn't have the greatest lyrics, but what it lacks in structure, it makes up for with an EXTREMELY catchy beat. ANY popular Southern California (or probably US) night club has had that song spinning night in and night out. It's not a song I personally care to defend, but it is very successful song. Who are you to say what good music is and isn't? Anyone with atleast a half way decent high school education would know that it's all up to PERSONAL PREFERENCE. Why do the likes of you and HH sit here and try to tell people what good music is or isn't? Who made you the authority on the subject? Do you get paid to tell people what they should think about music? Thanks...
Underground artists, though I know little about them, are professional musicians none-the-less. They don't flip burgers and fries during the day and rap in their off time. You talk as if being an underground artist is actually better than being mainstream. When you do something for a living (like rapping) you don't do it "for the love of the music" you do it for the money. Some people require less money than others, so in that respect, maybe being less of a financial success as an underground artist is acceptable, as long as it still pays the bills. Besides, I'm sure there are LOTS of underground artists that make a DAMN good living doing what they do. But what I'm seeing you do is talk sh!t on mainstream.....basically just because it is main stream.
In that regard...
You....try....too....hard.
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Last edited by Linkalicious on Sep 2nd, 2004 at 01:52 PM
Gender: Male Location: Huntington Beach, California
yah, actually I totally understand. Because I kinda worked in backwards order when it came to Banks.
I don't stay up with hip hop...as i'm sure you could guees.
But I went out and bought his G-Unit produced CD, then decided to try and find some of his other work on KaZaa. I like his mixed stuff and cameo work a lot better than his CD. I can't really complain all tooooo much about the CD, there are some good tracks on it.
Apology MUCH accepted. Good to see we aren't fighting anymore. I came in here to share my opinion (though my opinion apparently sucked...oh well) but also to hear other's opinions.
I know I was saying the whole Genre sucks, but I'd like to omit that whole post...i was in a bad mood. For me, I listen to music in phases. I did my hip hop phase, my punk phase, I just finished my classic rock phase...and now I'm trying to dabble in a little bit of everything modern.
After being turned onto Immortal Technique by HockeyHorror (puruvian cocaine, what a tune), i'd have to say that he could well be on the way to restoring my faith in intelligent, thoughtful and meaningful hip hop. His album is being shipped over to me as i write this and i cant wait to hear what else this guy has got to say. With a few exceptions i thought hip hop was on the decline with all the gangsta crap out there at the moment, thanks for restoring my faith HH.
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Gender: Male Location: Huntington Beach, California
Didn't Blackalicious start up in like San Diego or something like that? I went down to SD's Gas Lamp District to party one weekend, and they were playing in some big local club and it pretty much emptied all the hotties out of the Gas Lamp...