Of course Stan Lee is going to say it's good because if he endorses it and manages at the same time to squeeze in a noticeable cameo then he gets a big, fat wallet at the end of the day. Watching all those interviews with Stan Lee talking about how good the movie was, and how it stayed true to ' the essence of Peter Parker and Spiderman' I could almost see a dollar-sign image appear in his eyes as he comtemplated how much he can possibly milk this movie for. Because in his case human greed overcame his understanding and presentation of his own characters, to millions of fans by screwing it up.
And Sam Raimi, if that's how a Spiderman fan makes a movie then he must have neglected everything that Stan Lee ever did in the comics, and just make this alternate reality Spiderman movie with hideous changes, to try and make it acceptable for people to believe.
Note to Sam Raimi: including Bruce Campbell as a cameo is not good and not clever so don't do it.
Hey Just thort id say at least the suit wasnt as goofy looking as the 1 from THe Green Goblins Last Stand. I never said I liked the suit tho, but I didnt mind it too much. I dont think it spoiled the film. Those Alex Ross pics look awesome..
Very well said Lord Shadow. Spiderman is Stan Lees most famous creation so of course he's going to try and promote it by saying nothing but good things about it even if he really is not happy with it.After all stan did say publicy that hwas against the idea of the organics when he heard about it and also said he did not like the look of the goblin costume but he has very little heresay in how they make the movie since marvel sold their rights to sony to make it.he even said that he has very little input in how they make the movie when he was aksed that question. well looks like less than a month till manspider 2 comes out.
Those Alex Ross sketches are making me EVEN MORE angry.
Look at those pics! THAT was the original Green Goblin movie design people!
I can't beleive they dumped them in favour of that horrible flight suit.
The glider was done REALLY well in the movie. I'm glad they got the glider right at least. Imagine THAT Goblin on the movie's glider, that would have been perfection.
They kept trying to come up with reasons as to why Norman wore that costume - if they knew their Norman like we Spiderman fans do, then they'd know it's a combination of Normans ultimate fear and insanity that led him to don that costume. THAT'S IT. No flight suit nonsense, no orange blobs instead of pumpkin bombs.
I think a child could have come up with something better.
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I would say that applies to you as well of someone who needs to get a life since you feel the need to keep coming back here talking about how great that stupid movie was. you obviously did not listen to a word of what I said either because I said that of course STAN LEE is going to say how great it is after he sees it,do you honestly think he would say anything differently and NOT try and promote his most famous creation? give me a break. the only person who REALLY knows if stan liked it is stan himself.
Yeah I cant believe they dumped them in favor of that horrible flight suit either Red superfly. Yeah they did a good job with the glider but boy they really screwed up big time on that costume all right.You are so right,a child could have come up with something better.
I was just wonderring - what do you think of Doctor Octopus? I actually think they've done a stellar job on his appearance.
I like how his tentacles aren't completely cylindrical - they look a lot more like Octopus arms, yet still have that Sci-fi feel to them. I think it looks brilliant.
I will be slightly dissapointed if Doc Ock isn't a lost cause though. I always thought that Doc Ock was quite a tragic villain, in that he fell from grace. He had a few parrelels to Macbeth and I like characters like that. I'm not going to be too pleased if he is evil via his tentacles simply "making him evil", that would almost counter-act all the good work they have done on him so far.
I'm still looking forward to the movie, I really can't wait, but I hope Doctor Octopus isn't just some puppet - he deserves so much more than that. Doctor Octopus was his own man, and had signs of nobility and madness. He respected Spider-man as a fighter, and hated him all the same. He's such a brilliant character and I hope they don't screw him up.
I have to admit, despite the fact the Goblin suit was lame, at least the characterisation held up, and he was a pretty powerful character all the same, I hope they translate Ocks character onto screen as good as Dafoe conveyed Norman.
If Ock can pull it off, I may just forgive the fact that he isn't German (man I couldn't believe that at first).
Im not to thrilled with his suit either.I dont know why they didnt use the white suit he wore in later years as doc ock for the film instead of that matrix look alike trenchcoat.
Am I the one that takes every opportunity to state something over and over again? We get it... You did not like the movie. However, millions of people did. Get over it.
I understand everyone's expectation of how the movie should turn out, but it can't be made exactly as it is in the comics. Things that appear in the comic cannot always be translated onto the big screen, especially if the movie is made decades after the creation of the character.
In the end, all I can say is... I don't give a rat's a$$ what you think about the movie . I've got other things to do with my time... Like going to see Harry Potter with my girlfriend. I suggest that you get yourself a girl (or guy ) and go out and enjoy the world.
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The fact that you keep coming back here and defending that horrible movie and its shortcomings,yeah you need to look in the mirror when telling someone they need to get a life.your tired of my complaining?dont enter this thread simple as that,problem solved. both the first batman and spiderman movie were horrible films, they only made as much money as they did because of little kids counting for the majority of the box office by getting their parents to take them back again and again,thats who all those millions are,doesnt mean it was a good movie. and dont give me that crap that the mechs cant be translated to the moviescreen. you know nothing about film making.hate to tell you this dude but I got girlfriends I hang with and a life outside this site,same old behaviour from the manspider fans, alway making smart remarks of get a life.Im done with you,you manspider fans are alike,whenever someone puts down your stupid movie thats all you ever do is act childish and say-GET A LIFE.
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Red Superfly
[B]Those Alex Ross sketches are making me EVEN MORE angry.
Look at those pics! THAT was the original Green Goblin movie design people!
hey.........hey.......hey! ....HEY!!!! calm down alexx ross was NEVER part of siperman design team, and those pics arent nothing but HIS concept, contribution, for what goblin COULD be like.............but by the plot they devolped for the movie a fantasy custom would not suit goblin origin in the movie.............so dont mistake the things
This thread is getting way out of hand!
Cool it or it will be closed, you all have a right to your opinions and are aloud to argue over them, but do it fairly and polietly, don't get personal.
Going back on topic, all I have to say is I think Spider-Man was the best comic-book movie ever made, I loved everything in it and wouldn't have changed a thing.
You complain about everything in the movie, I must say its getting old people. If you don't like it: fine, but this forum is based pretty much on the movie. So why come and post in here if you hate the movie so much?! your offending a lot of people by doing it, Red superfly you've put down a lot of great ideas in Spider-Man, shame on you! the writers and designers put a lot of hard work and time into that, and they get a lot less credit then they deserve. So please people, don't waste your time saying how bad the movie was. Try and enjoy it, just be thankful that something like Spidey even exsists! and at least they didn't screw up Doc. Ock, he looks a thousand times better then in the comics and the TV series.
Also theres no need for Stan Lee to promote the movie because he didn't earn a CENT from the movie, I read about it. So obviously he really liked the movie because theres no point in promoting a movie if your not going to be the one who earns money from it.
Yeah, mr parker. Its funny to see how those man spider fans always go on the stupid remarks of " get a life" when the only damm thing that they do is insults and discuss with all the people who dont like the movie. They must be the ones on get a life.
And not, one lie more from the man spider fans. STAN LEE DIDNT LIKE THE MOVIE OR THE ORGANICS CHANGE OR THE GOBLIN COSTUME CHANGE. He didnt like it, but he have to promote it and goodtalk about it, because his most famous creation its in a movie.
And not, MAN SPIDER IS ONE OF THE WORST COMIC BOOKS ADAPTATIONS ON CINEMA STORY. PLEASE, MAN SPIDER FANS, DONT BE SO ASS KISSERS WITH THAT TRASH AND UNFAITHFUL MOVIE.
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I hope you aren't refferring to ME when you say "you complain about everything in the movie", because if you are, I would like to re-direct you to pretty much EVERY post I have ever written on this forum, because I have stated time and time again that the Spider-man movie IS NOT PERFECT.
Also, everytime I have "bashed" a part of the movie, at least I have had the decency to back it up, either by referencing the comics or arguing my point validly. I have taken on board everybodys opinions.
I never said the movie was bad. I seem to be the only person (or one of the very few) who can see the Spider-man movie for what it is, and that is an entertaining movie that (most) people can enjoy, and that it has short-sighted flaws (the organic webbing and the Green Goblin costume are actually counter-productive to the story, and shows that the creators clearly didn't think long-term).
And I can put down "great" ideas, I am allowed, thankyou. And if it is getting old, then how come the debate is still raging on? It is clearly a matter that MANY people have a strong opinion on, negative andpositive.
Just because Stan Lee doesn't earn anything from the movie, doesn't mean it won't benefit him at all.
The movie is Stan Lee's publicity. The movie has done wonders for the comic book. We all know people have become fans by seeing the movie and thinking "ah right, I better go check out the comic this is brilliant".
If Stan Lee promotes the film, the film promotes his comics. Simple as that.
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Spiderman is Stan Lees most famous creation so of course he's going to try and promote it by saying nothing but good things about it even if he really is not happy with it.After all stan did say publicy that hwas against the idea of the organics when he heard about it and also said he did not like the look of the goblin costume but he has very little heresay in how they make the movie since marvel sold their rights to sony to make it.he even said that he has very little input in how they make the movie when he was aksed that question. well looks like less than a month till manspider 2 comes out. 
you obviously did not listen to a word of what I said either because I said that of course STAN LEE is going to say how great it is after he sees it,do you honestly think he would say anything differently and NOT try and promote his most famous creation? give me a break. 
the only person who REALLY knows if stan liked it is stan himself.
with my girlfriend. I suggest that you get yourself a girl (or guy 
) and go out and enjoy the world.
