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Mighty Yoda
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Has anybody read these books. Do you think that books are better than the films.


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well I think a lot of forum members have read them

I have

ofcourse they are better than the films which is quite logical, however the movies are a great tribute to the books.

GO PJ


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Both are very good. Movies on books tend to be off, but PJ did a good job keeping them true as much as possible (whatever the reasons).


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I put your thread with this one..check it out..alot of lotr fans here! big grin

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quote:
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[ofcourse they are better than the films which is quite logical, however the movies are a great tribute to the books.
GO PJ [/B]


thumb up Yeap. The film is great but the books are the books.

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The book is rarely, if ever, inferior to the movie


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I used to have a LOTR pic, I lost it...


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I actually liked the movies better....but that's no surprise...the books were good but uh tiresome.....


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Yes, they take a while to read.


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They're better after seeing the movies. Trust me, I know


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Frankly, Tolkien has ALWAYS been over-rated as a writer. He is a great imaginer of worlds and characters but writing is simply not his forte and in any objective sense large parts of LOTR are badly written. And that is me speaking as a fan, you know.


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I'm afraid I must agree. He does WAY too much dialogue and exposition, not allowing the story to move along.


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I shall disagree with you. Tolkien books are very well written, and the story moves along perfectly for such difficult exercise of written.

To many characters and lots facts in a new world become the written difficult too, but Tolkien found the balance between dialogue and description and between action and pauses to gave us a perfect story for all ages.

I think you should give a chanche to an academic as Tolkien.
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Well, I know most critics do not. Tolkien has never been regarded as a great writer and I am confused by people who think otherwise when the flaws in his writing and the pacing of his books are relatively plain. Any person who wrote like that now would be widely and justifiably panned.

And likewise Tolkien himself said his joy and pride was in the creation of the world, the language, the cultures, and that the writing of stories was a lesser part of what he did.


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Again, I agree. I appreciate the writing itself a LOT less than the world he created, the characters that live in our hearts still


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Lets make a poll and see who agrees or dissagrees with you'r thoughts.


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And likewise Tolkien himself said his joy and pride was in the creation of the world, the language, the cultures, and that the writing of stories was a lesser part of what he did.


Yeap. You are right. But the creation of the world, the language and the cultures are reason enough to think he was a excellent writer. The subject have major importance in Tolkien's world and the way he did it made him a great writer.

There are some present writers who are famous for their bad writing. Some of then have very bad critics too. But the subject and his development must be understand as part of an avaliation. So, some of them won Nobel prize.

One of the lasts Nobel of Literature went to a portuguese writer named Saramago. He is knew by his bad and difficult way of writing, but that doesn't stop him of be one great writer.

As you said "writing of stories was a lesser part of what he did". I agree, but maybe he didn't had time to write in a better way...

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I just started The Lord of the Rings yesterday. I am only on WeatherTop *even though that's like page 200* I couldn't believe the difference between the book and the movie! Tolkien goes far into detail! I love it so far.


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quote:
Originally posted by Corlindel
Yeap. You are right. But the creation of the world, the language and the cultures are reason enough to think he was a excellent writer. The subject have major importance in Tolkien's world and the way he did it made him a great writer.

There are some present writers who are famous for their bad writing. Some of then have very bad critics too. But the subject and his development must be understand as part of an avaliation. So, some of them won Nobel prize.

One of the lasts Nobel of Literature went to a portuguese writer named Saramago. He is knew by his bad and difficult way of writing, but that doesn't stop him of be one great writer.

As you said "writing of stories was a lesser part of what he did". I agree, but maybe he didn't had time to write in a better way...


Pfft, he spent bloody ages over them. He just didn't have the ability to write in a better way.

And no-one who wrote like Tolkien would come close to a Nobel Prize.


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Pfft, he spent bloody ages over them. He just didn't have the ability to write in a better way.

And no-one who wrote like Tolkien would come close to a Nobel Prize.


I must disagree with you. But I understand your point of view.

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