this debate is stupid and is what drives people away from punk in the first place. this elitist punker than though bullshit has no place in this or any music scene. punk has no specific sound or set of lyrics its about a set of ethics, whether you express that through the music of your choice or through a fanzine. your dress or nationality have nothing to do with it. and nobody bring up that "sell out" crap because the pistols, the ramones, and many of those other bands were on major labels.
__________________ Land of the free, home of the brave...
Do you think we will ever be saved?
In this land of dreams find myself sober...
Wonder when will it'll all be over...
Living in a void when the void grows colder...
Wonder when it'll all be over?
Will you be laughing when it's over?
That's right, darthjello. Punk is(by definition): A youth movement of the late 70's characterized byanti-establishment slogans ad outrageous clothes and hairstyles. That's pretty close. It's basically lous, fast-paced, little chord progression. Mostly Barr chords. Lyrics are traditionally political, but not necessarily. It's about rebellion.
__________________ "My obligation is to do at anytime what I think is right."
-Henry David Thoreau
"Most governments are usually, and all governments are sometimes, inexpedient."
-Henry David Thoreau
it is that SA but it's other things too. The stuff from Southern california between 1978 ad 1987 is the hardest punk ever released
__________________ Land of the free, home of the brave...
Do you think we will ever be saved?
In this land of dreams find myself sober...
Wonder when will it'll all be over...
Living in a void when the void grows colder...
Wonder when it'll all be over?
Will you be laughing when it's over?
That's true. I'm just saying what te technical definition of it is. I think that 80's punk in SoCal is the greatest punk era of all time. But I alo like early 90's...Rancid, AFI, Green Day, Blink-182.
__________________ "My obligation is to do at anytime what I think is right."
-Henry David Thoreau
"Most governments are usually, and all governments are sometimes, inexpedient."
-Henry David Thoreau
technically, The hamburg era beatles, Nirvana, and Igor Stravinsky are punk
__________________ Land of the free, home of the brave...
Do you think we will ever be saved?
In this land of dreams find myself sober...
Wonder when will it'll all be over...
Living in a void when the void grows colder...
Wonder when it'll all be over?
Will you be laughing when it's over?
Nirvana arent punk, their grunge. I think the best punk is english seventies. But the ramones are good too.
Did any1 see busted sing teenage kicks during the brit awards i wanted to cry.
blink 182 are so not punk neither are greenday so dolnt be going saying that they are you imbseal btw this is sk8rpunkbarbie and i kno punk coz sex pistol is one of my closest mates.........
Sex Pistols were punk, yes. They didn't start it, however. But that doesn't matter. Anyway, nobody has a right to say what punk is or isn't, because it IS NOT a style of music, it is a way of life.
__________________ "My obligation is to do at anytime what I think is right."
-Henry David Thoreau
"Most governments are usually, and all governments are sometimes, inexpedient."
-Henry David Thoreau
exactly... hence the reasons of me saying their music wasnt punk. in all honestly you could call sex pistols pop/rock. pop is just short for popular and we all know what kind of impact that the sex pistols have had on the music industry... all in all where im going with this is that labeling music is a bunch of crap. granite i label music jsut like the next guy would, but then again i have no choice because that is how people come to terms with music.
punk IS a life style, not a music style. if anyhting punk is rock of the new age.
"society is a ***** of a thing when it comes to labeling"
And of course punk is music.
Bloody hell! Your either american which explains your behaviour or you were smoothered by your mam to much as a child! You sound like a ****ing hippie!
And to quote Mr johnny Rotten 'Never trust a ****ing hippie!'
and yes the sex pistols were tools... they were used and they were made to be what they were...wait that sounds familiar, sounds like what a boy band does!
p.s.
i have nothing against the sex pistols music. infact i have their cd and i also have couple videos on them. ill be honest im a fan. but they are what they are!
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