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Ushgarak
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Gender: Male Location: Chelmsford, Essex, UK Co-Admin |
Asidd from the third... which was evident... how do you reach your first two conclusions?
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Dec 28th, 2003 12:42 AM |
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Tptmanno1
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1) He's not a program because you said that the Agents wanted him more than us
2) He knows about the rebels/matrix because he knows Jerico, sent him in the USB mission, and knows enough to "matix proof" his hideout
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Dec 28th, 2003 12:50 AM |
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Ushgarak
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Gender: Male Location: Chelmsford, Essex, UK Co-Admin |
1. That's not a direct logical following, and not just because I said it was Jericho's team they wanted more. Can you actually say definitively that the System is only possibly interested in stopping humans? What if the Merovingian went after those codes, would they just let him?
2. Well, you don't know why he sent Jericho on that mission, maybe it WAS conventional. Still, there is something odd about his lair. But doesn;t that contrast with him not being a programme? No Coppertop can do that, and he is not one of you.
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Dec 28th, 2003 01:10 AM |
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Tptmanno1
Life Ponder-er
Gender: Male Location: Dreaming...Or am I living... |
fine he IS a damn program!
this is precisly why I am not in the philoshophy path
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Dec 28th, 2003 01:23 AM |
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Ushgarak
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Gender: Male Location: Chelmsford, Essex, UK Co-Admin |
Oh heck, I am not SAYING he is... I am just pointing out the difficulty of clear-cut assumptions.
What do your instincts tell you?
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Dec 28th, 2003 01:25 AM |
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Peach
mordrem
Gender: Female Location: verdant brink Moderator |
That this whole thing is confusing as hell?
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Dec 28th, 2003 01:37 AM |
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Ushgarak
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Gender: Male Location: Chelmsford, Essex, UK Co-Admin |
Yay! I'll just go get you the next thing to beat up, shall I?
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Dec 28th, 2003 01:42 AM |
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Fire
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Gender: Male Location: On vacation |
he's a program of some sort I think
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Dec 28th, 2003 01:42 AM |
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Peach
mordrem
Gender: Female Location: verdant brink Moderator |
Shut up Ush, just because I'm on the non-philosophy path doesn't mean I can't think for myself...remember that I started out on the philo path and decided to change for a little change of pace...
I think the only way he could be a program is if he's some kinda renegade program, because otherwise it wouldn't really make sense.
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Dec 28th, 2003 01:48 AM |
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Ushgarak
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Gender: Male Location: Chelmsford, Essex, UK Co-Admin |
Of course you can think for yourself! You can think about whether to Kick or Jump of the Grasshopper that next bad guy!
(runs away)
If a renegade, what is his nature?
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Dec 28th, 2003 01:50 AM |
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Peach
mordrem
Gender: Female Location: verdant brink Moderator |
...as I ignore your dumbass comment...
If he was a renegade, he could be kinda like the Oracle or Seraph, trying to help the rebels in his own way, which could explain why he sent Jericho and his crew out to steal the codes. OR he could have somehow found out about our assignment to steal them, and sent Jericho to stop us and try to get the codes themselves, or to just try and hinder us.
*sits back and waits for Ush to poke holes through both my theories*
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Dec 28th, 2003 01:54 AM |
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Ushgarak
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Gender: Male Location: Chelmsford, Essex, UK Co-Admin |
Let us assume for the moment that Melitus is a friendly programme.
What the hell is Jericho up to, if that is so?
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Dec 28th, 2003 01:55 AM |
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Peach
mordrem
Gender: Female Location: verdant brink Moderator |
Gimme a sec and I'll come up with an answer for you.
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Dec 28th, 2003 02:27 AM |
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Ushgarak
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Gender: Male Location: Chelmsford, Essex, UK Co-Admin |
(gives a sec)
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Dec 28th, 2003 02:31 AM |
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Peach
mordrem
Gender: Female Location: verdant brink Moderator |
Okay, how's this. Jericho is somehow running his own operations and needs the machine security codes. Dunno how that'd work into the story, but it could be a possibility.
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Dec 28th, 2003 02:34 AM |
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Ushgarak
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Gender: Male Location: Chelmsford, Essex, UK Co-Admin |
But it appears that it was Melitus who wanted the codes rather than Jericho. Something he clarly wanted in competition with you people
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Dec 28th, 2003 02:36 AM |
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Peach
mordrem
Gender: Female Location: verdant brink Moderator |
Well, the possibility of Jericho and his crew being trapped in the Matrix has been brought up, right? Maybe this is indeed what's going on and Melitus has dangled the offer of a way out in front of Jericho and Jericho's working for him to try and get Melitus to tell him how to leave the Matrix and go back to the Real World.
Wow, that's a damn long sentence.
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Dec 28th, 2003 02:40 AM |
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Ushgarak
Paladin
Gender: Male Location: Chelmsford, Essex, UK Co-Admin |
In that case, where is the Bounty? And how are are the physical bodies being maintained?
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Dec 28th, 2003 02:55 AM |
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Peach
mordrem
Gender: Female Location: verdant brink Moderator |
The Bounty could be somewhere on the broadcast level, tucked away in a corner or a mechanical line or something where it'd be really hard for them to be found, and their operator could be maintaining the crew's physical bodies.
Or...they made a deal like Cypher did to be plugged back into the Matrix...but that would kinda not work with the whole Agents being more after them than us during the first assignment. It is a possibility I think should be brought up though.
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Dec 28th, 2003 03:11 AM |
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Ushgarak
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Gender: Male Location: Chelmsford, Essex, UK Co-Admin |
Several objections to that scenario.
The Bounty would have to be using a broadcast point that neither you nor the System knows of. Unlikely
The Bounty was on a test run when (supposedly) destroyed and was not carrying operators.
In any case, they would by now have run out of food, water and power.
And yes, they are clearly working AGAINST the System in some capacity.
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