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Fire
Senior Member
 Gender: Male
Location: On vacation |
multiple guns is more than 2, certainly when you are a coppertop killer with 2 guns you won't last an entire combat without having to reload
and I think ares mostly uses automatic guns unless I am wrong?
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Dec 9th, 2003 11:52 PM |
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Ushgarak
Paladin
 Gender: Male
Location: Chelmsford, Essex, UK Co-Admin |
No matter how much exertion Master Copper gives you, it gives you about twice times as many actions as normal firing.
For comparison, Burn. With the basic Coppertop that just loses you an exertion each time you fire, You Speed is five so you gain an action when your excertion is -3. So if you shoot at Mundanes 3 times, you get a bonus action for another shot- 4 shots in three actions.
With the Master level you have it at, you get two bonus Very Fast shots on Coppertops each action, though they gain you an exertion. You go to 5 exertion before losing an action. So, you fire three times in the first action. Then Three shots in the second action. Then two shots in the third, losing the main action from exertion. That is eight shots in three actions- more than twice as fast as everyone else!
So try not to think of it as gaining exertion, look at it as converting full actions into mere exertion- for you, an exertion is one fifth of an action.
If you don't have Lightning Reload, carrying spare guns instead of spare clips can indeed work well.
Ares, yes- with experience.
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Dec 9th, 2003 11:54 PM |
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Ushgarak
Paladin
Gender: Male
Location: Chelmsford, Essex, UK Co-Admin |
Actually... all that said... Master Coppertop Killer isn't actually fast enough
(listens to other players gasping)
Yeah, it hasn't converted properly from the off-line version. I'll work on it after this Assignment.
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Dec 9th, 2003 11:56 PM |
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Tptmanno1
Life Ponder-er
Gender: Male
Location: Dreaming...Or am I living... |
not ka-chinking my shot gun may help too!
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Dec 9th, 2003 11:57 PM |
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Ushgarak
Paladin
Gender: Male
Location: Chelmsford, Essex, UK Co-Admin |
Yup!
Oh, Glock 18 bulk will come down a point next Assignment, San!
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Dec 9th, 2003 11:57 PM |
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REXXXX
Networking
 Gender: Male
Location: San Diego Moderator |
Good, that'll help. How long does it take?
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Dec 9th, 2003 11:58 PM |
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Fire
Senior Member
Gender: Male
Location: On vacation |
anywayz guys don't mind it too strong, just saying those things to help, was a lil touchy right now, no idea why
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Dec 10th, 2003 12:00 AM |
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Tptmanno1
Life Ponder-er
Gender: Male
Location: Dreaming...Or am I living... |
sweet, more shotgun pancakes, less time!
thats my new phrase, thanks Ares
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Dec 10th, 2003 12:01 AM |
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REXXXX
Networking
Gender: Male
Location: San Diego Moderator |
You're welcome, Burn!
Quite alright, Fire, probably just frustrated because you are being turned into bullethole cheese right now.
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Dec 10th, 2003 12:03 AM |
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Ushgarak
Paladin
Gender: Male
Location: Chelmsford, Essex, UK Co-Admin |
Technically speaking the top level of Coppertop Killer should allow you to make three attacks on Mundanes in the time it normally takes to make one.
But it means tweaking the exertion system again... darn it...
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Dec 10th, 2003 12:04 AM |
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Peach
mordrem
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Location: verdant brink Moderator |
Down a point? Down a point in what? Bulk, damage...
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Dec 10th, 2003 12:04 AM |
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REXXXX
Networking
Gender: Male
Location: San Diego Moderator |
Damage to us? 
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Dec 10th, 2003 12:05 AM |
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Fire
Senior Member
Gender: Male
Location: On vacation |
Bulk ofc.
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Dec 10th, 2003 12:07 AM |
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Ushgarak
Paladin
Gender: Male
Location: Chelmsford, Essex, UK Co-Admin |
Errr, I said bulk, TM!
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Dec 10th, 2003 12:08 AM |
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General Zink
Bane
 Gender: Male
Location: Evil high-backed chair |
All you poor people, lugging around all those guns...
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Dec 10th, 2003 12:09 AM |
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Peach
mordrem
Gender: Female
Location: verdant brink Moderator |
durr
*smacks forehead*
Yay for my ability to not notice the important words in sentences...
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Dec 10th, 2003 12:10 AM |
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Fire
Senior Member
Gender: Male
Location: On vacation |
lol Hep, they can be very useful in a fight trust me
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Dec 10th, 2003 12:11 AM |
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Ushgarak
Paladin
Gender: Male
Location: Chelmsford, Essex, UK Co-Admin |
Heh... Heph is proud of his non-gun status...
Which will allow you to carry five spare clips with one, TM.
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Dec 10th, 2003 12:12 AM |
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Peach
mordrem
Gender: Female
Location: verdant brink Moderator |
Alright, more clips equals more destruction from me!
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Dec 10th, 2003 12:14 AM |
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Ushgarak
Paladin
Gender: Male
Location: Chelmsford, Essex, UK Co-Admin |
I think I have an idea of how Master Coppertop can work in future. Hmmm...
(thinks things over)
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