It aint no way batman in his whole life could ever beat wolverine, it seems like noone knows anything about wolverine. The guy fights juggernaut, hulk, magneto, ripped a whole in thanos and omega red, to a standstill. How in the world would batman ever compare to something like that. See what yall dont understand is that wolverine has no weaknesses. The only time he actually loses is when someone like hulk or juggernaut hits him on the head knocking him out. The question is does batman with his human strength has the capabilities of knocking wolverine out "NO". Wolverine is the best fighter in marvel, the best, it aint no ," someone is getting the upper hand on wolverine" that would never happen because once you strike him he will always get the second or third lick in and thats all it would take to beat batman. When have you ever seen batman take on 500 ninjas at one time, never because that would be his last fight. Ive seen joker knock batman out, Wolverine is just to good to even be in the same room with batman. And what you all dont seem to understand is when wolverine goes into his berserker rage it aint no stopping him you can shoot, punch, stab, burn him up, electricute him, nothing works. The only thing that calms him down is when hes got the kill. Batman your out of your league.
derrick called it, batman needs specific tools to beat actauly powerfull adversaries. batman cannot hit wolverine hard enuf, venom can lift a max of 50 tons,he is as fast as spider man,and he cant k.o wolverine, if he cant batman hasnt a prayer
Sorry Derrick but if you think Wolverine has no weaknesses, it's you that needs to do more research on your hero, he's just harder to kill. I'm a Wolverine fan as well and he can die just like any other person. He needs to breath just like any ordinary human so he can be defeated/killed. Wolverine has a healing factor and unbreakable skeleton..........big whoop! He can still be defeated by conventional means believe it or not. Batman has faced far worse enemies than Wolverine.
Yes, Batman is only human and that is an admirable thing within itself to be a hero but people knock him because he has a belt and a few vehicles??? The devices that Batman has are only items that he uses because he's so well prepared but they're not a crutch by any means. Anyone that knows Batman knows that he's just as dangerous without his tools. He has a deadly analytical mind that everyone has to respect. Wolverine wouldn't have an easy day with the Dark Knight.
You gotta think outside the box man. What makes you think Batman is going to try to knock Wolverine out with a punch? That's what's so dangerous about Batman, you don't know how he'll attack you. With Batman, a punch may not even be thrown and he'll be the victor. Wolverine has a few handy powers to help him survive but they don't make him invincible.
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Batman would use his mind rather than his attacking abilities. He'd find a way to defeat the adamantium first then enhance his strength to go toe to toe with wolverine; and in a straight fight Batman would kick ass.
Fighting Wolverine would simply be inefficient. Batman is too intelligent for that. You just don't go toe to toe with someone you cant physically hurt.
A little gas and Wolvie's out. Maybe even piss him off just so he does go berserk. Its easy to trap a crazed animal.
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I agree with the gasing technique, but i'm going to say that when Wolvie is in his feral state he's probably his most dangerous. I don't think bats would wanna piss off wolverine unless he had some Scooby-Doo-esque trap set up in order to detain Wolvie. Wolvie going berserker is like sending a bull into a store that sells glass and fine china.
he's resistant to toxins, gas won't work. I still say that either wolvie or the devil could seriously trash batman
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He's resistant to those things but that's not saying they can't take him out. If Wolvie is trapped in a room inhaling knock out gas, he's going down. It'll just take alot more to knock him out than the average person.
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and he'll probably wake up or "come to" a lot faster than another human, but that doesn't mean that he can sit there and breath nothing but smoke without it taking effect.
i dont know how to do the qoute thing, but daywalker has a point i dont think anybody can set a trap like batman,he'd probably go after jean(bruce can get anybody to trust him) and then use her as bait. but he better be sure wolverine goes down cause he cant be wolverine in a actaul fight.
Whatever. Spiderman has beaten Wolverine. Knocked him into a tombstone and knocked him out. "No weaknesses?" How about he's slow, for starters - Elektra danced circles around him.
Wolverine is "the best fighter in Marvel?" LMAO! That's why Silver Samurai gave him hell, Sabretooth gave him hell, Elektra beat him, Spiderman beat him, he was afraid of Cyber, Marrow put a bone through his neck - and it took me five seconds to come up with those examples. Need more? Daredevil is a better fighter than Wolverine. Captain America is a better fighter than Wolverine. Get real.
LMAO @ "Venom can lift 50 tons" - try 11.
Batman could put Wolverine down with a pressure point move. He is the superior martial artist.
Batman devised a means that defeated the entire JLA - do you really think he could not overcome Wolverine?
sorry buddy, dont test my venom knolwedge, it says 11 tons at spider fan..but that hasnt been edited in for ever, geocities has venom at a range of 11 to 50 becuase venom tossed around digger's.those way a hell of a lot more than 11 tons.not only that that is optimal strengh not max. spider man in a pinch can lift 15 tons. the symbiote augmented eddie brock to spidermans strengh and since eddie was in better shape he is actualy stronger than spidey. dont talk about old stats buddy stay updated
Powers and Abilities: As Venom Brock has super strength, and create webbing at will, and the alien costume can "morph" into any sort of clothing. As Brock, Eddie relies upon his keen investigative sense. It should be noted that during the period that Spider-Man wore the alien costume there was evidence that the Symbiote somehow fed on his adrenaline.
this is another fact from his new bio.now even this stuff is outdated, but if you have ever seen lethal protector you might know they leave a lot out about venom at most of his bio sites. here is why he fought juggernuat and was getting work when he got knocked into a lake of some kind of living fluid like his symbiote this fused with his suit making him more powre full. and he has absorbed the carnage symbiote witch made him look odd....but now in the most recent venom comic it is just the symbiote it un-bonded to eddie brock and is runnin around alaska.
all this is true and can be found by searching geocities venom bio, there are two the black backround page is the right one, the white dosent really say anything important, ill find it and post. but please this is wolverine vs batman
not try to look smart by sayin a bunch of crap about anyone
wolverine is way to dangerous to fight hand, even if your better one good slash and its over
Don't know who "geocities" is and have never been to "Spider Fan." Have been reading Spiderman since oh...1984? I daresay I know a tad about the character.
Is geocities affiliated with Marvel Comics? No. Is their information accurate? No.
11-50 tons? LoL, Venom can not lift anywhere near 50 tons. Ask Todd Mcfarlane - you know, the guy who created Venom?
Spiderman does not lift 15 tons either, it is closer to 10 (he is not as strong as The Lizard).
I will say it again. Spiderman has whipped Wolvie's ass. He is NOT that good of a fighter, he is just a GAME fighter.
todd mcfarlane isnt workin for marvel anymore wonder why?
anyhow you must not know as much as you say becuase for someone whos been readin since 1984 dosent know as much as he thinks. read venom's miniseries befor you start up. leathal protector #5 is all you need to see. venom is no hulk, but the symbiote does get a tad stonger the more intense eddie brock gets
you want marvel stats? here ya go
POWER GRID 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7
INTELLIGENCE 2.3
STRENGTH 4.9 or 5 its close
SPEED 4
DURABILITY 2
AGILITY 4
REFLEXES 4
FIGHTING SKILLS 3
Mcfarlane's not working for Marvel has zero to do with the issue at hand - and Venom still cannot lift anywhere near 50 tons. The individual who created him, first drew him, et cetera never characterized Venom as being grossly superior in strength to Spiderman.
You stated that a "digger" weighs way more than 10 tons - according to whom? What is your frame of reference?
Again I ask is the geocities site in any way affiliated with Marvel Comics? No, so why are you claiming that they are accurate?
Now you are saying "a tad" stronger - would not one have to be more than "a tad stronger" to lift 50 tons as opposed to 11 tons? That being said, Carnage is supposed to be stronger than Venom and Spidey both, so you are telling me that Carnage can lift more than 50 tons?
look you can talk all you want about affilated this and that but if you dont read the comics dont talk about the stats.the site may be wrong about 50 tons but 11 is not his max. if you want evidence you have to read the comics yourself. venom:the madness and Venom:leathal protector both show he has increased his strength. and carnage has nothing to do with it. read those befor you try to talk about venom. its his own friggin series for cryin out loud if any body knows what he can or cant do its in those issues. end of story
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