All the ways you wish you could be, that's me. I look like you wanna look, I **** like you wanna ****, I am smart, capable, and most importantly, I am free in all the ways that you are not.
rap sucks because the amount of talent it takes to peform is extremely miniscule compared to other genres. You talk, essentially, in rythem over a computer generated beat instead of performing the beats yourself. Even lacking the ability to play the music themselves, relying on a computer to do it for them, the digitally created music lacks so much creativity that early rap had in bus loads.
My reply to people who post this kind of rubbish is always the same - you do it then. I'd like to see you do it, I really would, there are so many people out there who associate hip hop with talentless gangsters, you people need to learn that music is diverse and to appreciate different genres.
It's fair enough if you don't like it, but don't start claiming it requires no talent, there's plenty of artistic merit in hip hop, just as much as there is in other genres.
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It's in response to what a few people have said throughout the thread. Would you rather I pick apart your post in particular? If so, I'd be more than happy to.
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First off the bit about talking, now then it requires quite a bit more than talking, listen again and you will notice that a certain tempo and structure are required for a hip hop song to be even listenable. Also, what would you call poetry? Do you have any grasp of the kind of effort and ability that has to go into writing something with such rhythm and power? There is no real reason why some hip hop artists should not be compared to poets, granted they're doing it on a different playing field and it could even be argued that what they do requires more talent. What hip hop have you actually heard? Because please, do not come here with some ignorant view, backed only by 50 Cent and So Solid Crew.
As you seem to put so much esteem in 'real' instruments' listen again, there are plenty of real instruments, do you think all that sampling and mixing comes from nowhere, this isn't the Simpsons, mate. Most of the time, the bass guitar you hear on an Eminem track is just as real as one you hear on a Linkin Park track, it's all mixed in and produced, just as it is in hip hop.
Now, you may be thinking that I'm just some hip hop nut, but the truth is, I like an absolute load of music - I never discriminate against a genre.
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Which is why I said talking in rythem with the beat, not just the same as casual, everyday talking. I avoided lyrical content for a reason, just to avoid the stereotype "gangsta, bitches, ho's, bling bling" crap that most recognized rap acts shell out. That would not be considered poetry to anyone. More talent than simply writing a poem? Sure. More talent than lyric writing than any other genre? No, and the reason for this is while rap acts have to write lyrics in order to fit into the rythem of the beat, lyrics written for everything else not only has to have a rythem to it, but must also fit in harmonically and melodically. Granted nothing recent. I still like public enemy, though, if I had to pick my fav of all time simply because their lyrics arent dumbed down to please the lowest common denominator and they can actually be translated well musically into other genres, evidenced by their bring the noise collaboration with anthrax.
The thing is they didn't write that music and didn't record it. They took what someone else created and used it. That's embarrassingly cheap. Thats what makes an artist like the roots stand out so much from everyone else in the rap/hip hop genre
I'm not discriminating, just stating the truth about what the genre has become.
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