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Luna Lovegood
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oooh! painting! I never thought of that! That's really good, I bet thats what it'll be
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Jan 4th, 2004 02:24 PM |
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szhismine
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for Sirius to come back as a painting someone has to actually paint him.
and if he's painted how do we know he'll be "alive", in the sense he can talk and walk through other portraits? and will the painting of Sirius have Sirius' personality?
how does that work anyway? i don't think you just paint someone and they come to life. there has to be a spell or something.
i have nothing against Sirius coming back, but how will he come back? what form will he be in? what will he do? will he be dead or alive?
*sigh* wishful thinking...
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Jan 4th, 2004 02:35 PM |
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Phoenix
Luna Lovegood
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there would be paintings already, I would assume. Berhaps at Grimmauld Place, they have been banished to the loft or something
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Jan 4th, 2004 02:52 PM |
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Joy2dWorld
Oriental Potentate
 Gender: Female
Location: Philippines |
OK then, how about the clue in book 3?
Remember when Harry's patronus drove away about a hundred dementors - he told Dumbledore he thought he saw his father James as the one who produced it, but realized it was him, using the time-turner - Dumbledore said this..
"You think the dead we loved ever truly leave us? You think that we don't recall them more clearly than ever in times of great trouble? Your father is alive in you, Harry, and shows himself most plainly when you have need of him. How else could you produce that particular Patronus? Prongs rode again last night."
Surely, one way or another, Sirius will show himself again to Harry in his time of great need!
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Jan 4th, 2004 04:04 PM |
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VanHRH
Luna@Hermy+Ginny=Harry
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I just finish reading book 5 (for the 4th time....lol) 3 hours ago will i was health class and now that i think about it...sirius WILL come back. and im not only saying that because i feel better just at the tought of it (i hate that he had to die... ...but because J.K actully does hint towards him comming back in certain parts in the chapter after his death. i mean for those of us who has combed through the book everytime they re-read it....u always find a new fact or clue u didnt see before and i found a couple while i was in class! Face it people....our man Sirius is comming back in some shape or form of another.....and the points u make also and up to that theory.
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"When u say'Sirius', are u talking about Stubby Baordman?"(Luna)
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'I'll sleep forever.....if he only loves me in my dreams.....'
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Jan 9th, 2004 08:39 PM |
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Trickster
True KMC Jester
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Location: United Kingdom |
I think some of you are reading too much into the talk at the end. The bit with Luna I mean, I think thats just calculated to make people feel sorry for her. And Harry, so he makes people nicer to her next year, and she becomes one of his allies.
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He who dies with the most toys. Still dies.
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Jan 9th, 2004 10:40 PM |
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Trickster
True KMC Jester
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Oh yeah. Sirius WILL come back in one form or another Maybe not till the very end of book 7 though.
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"If clowns warred on monkeys, and the monkeys had guns, and were trained to use them, who would win?"
Death only gives another set of choices.
He who dies with the most toys. Still dies.
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Jan 9th, 2004 10:42 PM |
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Red_Drake
Dragon lord
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I don't think JK would really make a person such as sirius disapear like that, but harry was kinda stupid too, if there was time-turners in one of the rooms, why didn't he used it to turn back time and save sirius? (Any explanation will do)
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Jan 9th, 2004 10:58 PM |
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Trickster
True KMC Jester
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Cos he is a fool. With a lack of comon sense.
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"If clowns warred on monkeys, and the monkeys had guns, and were trained to use them, who would win?"
Death only gives another set of choices.
He who dies with the most toys. Still dies.
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Jan 9th, 2004 11:10 PM |
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Joy2dWorld
Oriental Potentate
Gender: Female
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the time-turner is not a thing you can just use, its a very dangerous tool - Harry knows this - Dumbledore & Hermione stressed this on him in book 3! it is something that must be used responsibly.
if Harry used the time-turner, Harry-past will see Harry-future - anything goes after that & the result could go catastrophic.
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Jan 10th, 2004 01:24 PM |
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Trickster
True KMC Jester
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No, cos he would realise wouldn't he. He could just appear at the door, kill Bellatrix or stun, whatever, and go away befre anyone sees.
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"If clowns warred on monkeys, and the monkeys had guns, and were trained to use them, who would win?"
Death only gives another set of choices.
He who dies with the most toys. Still dies.
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Jan 10th, 2004 01:35 PM |
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Joy2dWorld
Oriental Potentate
Gender: Female
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yeah suddenly Harry is a murderer, oh brother.. stun bella, now that sounds very easy huh..
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Jan 10th, 2004 03:20 PM |
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Trickster
True KMC Jester
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Well i twould be, cos from the stairs he would be aiming at her back.
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"If clowns warred on monkeys, and the monkeys had guns, and were trained to use them, who would win?"
Death only gives another set of choices.
He who dies with the most toys. Still dies.
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Jan 10th, 2004 04:32 PM |
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Red_Drake
Dragon lord
Gender: Male
Location: In a place of my own |
and because Harry already had an experince with the time turner, he wouldn't try to kill himself would he?
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Jan 10th, 2004 04:45 PM |
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JRIndy
Mischief Maker
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i don't remember where in book 5 it said, maybe christmas. but when harry had talked to Sirius he "walked away, leaving harry standing alone in the dark" I only realized this when i read the book for the second time, but if you are going to interpret the book literally, this is important. personally, i wish Harry hadn't used Umbridge's fire but the mirror. Wouldn't it be great if he could just throw Sirius's into the veil after him... kind of stupid, but I keep thinking about it. And the paintings: the person has to be painted when they are still alive. I hope his mother didn't burn portraits with Sirius on them...
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Jan 12th, 2004 03:04 PM |
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Lianslo
chasing the music
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Wow, you guys have got a lot of good points. I think its possible that Sirius could come back *crosses fingers* I mean, the way he died was so weird...so...magical. It wasn't like he got zapped by avada kedavra...he just fell behind a veil...so in my opinion JKR is leaving her options open. They didn't have to carry Sirius's dead body away, he wasn't mutilated or mangled, he just, fell....so basically anything could happen!
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Jan 16th, 2004 04:44 AM |
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hhhhr
Senior Member
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well i don't think he would come back but i think snape would have a bigger role in the 6th book.
by the way, does anyone know when the 6th book is coming out?
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Jan 16th, 2004 11:41 AM |
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Kristina
Member
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Wow...you guys are good! I discussed a lot in another thread "Is Sirius really dead"about this topic and I heard the most theories about 1000 times, but the hints in Luna's conversation with Harry and also Sirius leaving Harry alone in the dark have I never heard before...even it points directly in the other direction :-(( Even if I believe Sirius will come back I noticed another hint for him being dead: When Harry entered Grimmauld place for the first time (without knowing it was Sirius's house) he felt like he was entering "the house of a dying person".
There's no doubt that we'll hear more about Sirius (pensieve, another real dream of Harry...ect.) but the question is if Sirius will be able to come back as a real man, and not like a ghost or portrait or something.
And would you really want to have cool tough Sirius back if he would re-appear as a stupid talking picture of him on the wall arguing with the Fat Lady and the knight and his pony?! I wouldn't!! That wouldn't be him!
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Jan 16th, 2004 01:20 PM |
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Lianslo
chasing the music
Gender: Female
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your totally right about it not being right for sirius to be in a picture.....almost seems like a waste of time! But, i've still got some hope that he could come back....i suppose time will tell!
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