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King Kandy
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Originally posted by Nephthys
Well Madara is a liar.

I mean, Hashirama was the only one stopping him from being leader of the village. If he won he would have been Hokage. Why would he lose on purpose?

I don't think the village would allow someone who set the kyuubi upon them to be their leader...


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I thought he just set it on Hashirama. :O

They were duelling iirc.


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A is not faster. Everything in the most recent fight, Bee did while in base form. I have a hard time believing that A could keep up with Bee in a compressed 8-tail form, when Naruto w/ significantly less biju chakra is faster than him. As far as Samehada, I admit that i'm speculating a little. But come on, how much mastery does it take just to swing the thing? Samehada does most of the rest on its own. He wouldn't be able to fuse with it probably but most everything else seems plausible.

If he extends Bee's consciousness, all that does is give Bee more time to coordinate an escape. We saw him break out again, after only a second's effort. If he has three days, it will just be all the easier. It doesn't matter what it is in "real time", because Bee won't be operating in real time. He'll be operating on the genjutsu's terms.


A says he's the fastest ninja alive, and Bee doesn't really say anything to the contrary. In the latest fight, I never saw anything from Bee that suggested he was as fast or faster. He was on the defensive for most of it, until he pwned him in the Lariat battle.
Kisame's reacted to Bee's V2 Lariat. A should be able to dodge it outright. Also, weren't you the one that stated that just because Naruto was able to dodge A fastest punch, it does not mean he was faster than A?
Yeah, as far as chakra draining and chakra giving goes, Bee's current mastery over Samehada is more than enough. But he still doesn't seem to want to use it. It would have worked wonders against A.

Not really, seeing as the Genjutsu would be affecting Bee's sense of time and mental state, not the Hachibi's. The Hachibi is the one that breaks Bee out of the genjutsu, so it's all on the Hachibi. There's no indication that Bee consciously tells it to break him out of genjutsu either, so Bee's 'operating time' does not factor into this.
It would need a couple of seconds to break Bee out of Tsukuyomi, but to Bee, it would still seem like 3 or more/less days have passed since he got trapped, and then released.

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[SPOILER - highlight to read]: By being as awesome as Bee. And yeah, Karura certainly pulled the Harry Potter effect. And nah, she definitely doesn't outrank Kushina. Kankuro is too awful. Even Gaara and Temari can't make up for him.

Probably a combination of both.

More so, obviously. And I know. He wanted to be like his idol, the 2nd Mizukage.



[SPOILER - highlight to read]: Even a Jinchurikii thrice as awesome and skilled as Bee would not be able to tame a Bijuu by the age of 6.
We should call him "Gaara Potter" eh? stick out tongue
She far outranks Kushina. In addition to giving Gaara & Gaara's auto-shield, she gave the Kunoichi with teh sexiest legs in the series. Consequently, all Kushina gave was the laemest ninja in the series, and help for said ninja by chaining the Kyuubi.

Any other ideas?

We really need to see what the dude is capable of. Killing Mu is bawss and all, but we don't know how he did it.


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[SPOILER - highlight to read]: Even a Jinchurikii thrice as awesome and skilled as Bee would not be able to tame a Bijuu by the age of 6.
We should call him "Gaara Potter" eh? stick out tongue
She far outranks Kushina. In addition to giving Gaara & Gaara's auto-shield, she gave the Kunoichi with teh sexiest legs in the series. Consequently, all Kushina gave was the laemest ninja in the series, and help for said ninja by chaining the Kyuubi.

Any other ideas?

We really need to see what the dude is capable of. Killing Mu is bawss and all, but we don't know how he did it.


[SPOILER - highlight to read]: The Sage of Six Paths fits that description and could. And yeah, Gaara Potter is an awesome name.
Kushina gave birth to Naruto, the sexiest ninja in the series when he wants to be. And Kushina gave Naruto his awesome transformation, which is> Gaara.

No, it makes sense. They probably lost of rep thanks to that war, a war they probably didn't do so hot in, considering Kumo obtained a magnet ninja during the course of it. It's possible that they were the cause of the war so repercussions would be necessary.

Indeed, I'd like to know how he does it.


By the way, can we all agree Kabuto is stupid?

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I think you guys are way off base on the Karura thing. I think that was just intended as an explanation of why Gaara can use those techniques now, not saying that he was never using Shukaku's powers even back in the day. Much in the same way as Naruto talks about being empowered by his father, I don't think that was really anything literal.


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My god, Gaara was an tiny baby.


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he's the size of a quizno's sub, and we all know those bastards are microscopic


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[SPOILER - highlight to read]: The Sage of Six Paths fits that description and could. And yeah, Gaara Potter is an awesome name.
Kushina gave birth to Naruto, the sexiest ninja in the series when he wants to be. And Kushina gave Naruto his awesome transformation, which is> Gaara.

No, it makes sense. They probably lost of rep thanks to that war, a war they probably didn't do so hot in, considering Kumo obtained a magnet ninja during the course of it. It's possible that they were the cause of the war so repercussions would be necessary.

Indeed, I'd like to know how he does it.


By the way, can we all agree Kabuto is stupid?


[SPOILER - highlight to read]: Nah, the Sage is 20 times as awesome, not a measly 3. Besides, even he was not 6 when he became a Jinchurikii.
Please, the sexiest ninja in the series is either Minato or Itachi. Even in his batshit insane persona, Sasuke's much much smexier than Naruto.
Kushina just helped Naruto get his awesome transformation. Naruto did most of the work.
That said, I wonder what Gaara's going through now. For most of his life until now, he's thought that his mother hated him. Let's see if he freaks out like Sasuke did.

Fair enough. Hearing it from another person is reassuring. stick out tongue

His awesomeness was too much for Muu ?


Well he's certainly squandering his forces easily. Orochimaru did more with 2, than Kabuto's done with 20.

Also, yeah, Gaara was extremely small as a baby. Like what, 3 inches in length?

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I think you guys are way off base on the Karura thing. I think that was just intended as an explanation of why Gaara can use those techniques now, not saying that he was never using Shukaku's powers even back in the day. Much in the same way as Naruto talks about being empowered by his father, I don't think that was really anything literal.


Yondaime Kazekage's statement implies that Gaara's auto-shield ability is due to his mother, not Shukaku. It even looked like the auto-shield was in effect when Yondaime tried to attack him. The next chapter will clarify this most likely.


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Interesting that this confirms there is some biju compatibility factor that can be detected at birth. Gaara had it, Temari and Kankuro didn't, even all being siblings.

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By the way, can we all agree Kabuto is stupid?


Nah. It's just a limitation on the jutsu, and taking full control requires extra efforts.

Even if they talk away, he still has their combat power.


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[SPOILER - highlight to read]: Nah, the Sage is 20 times as awesome, not a measly 3. Besides, even he was not 6 when he became a Jinchurikii.
Please, the sexiest ninja in the series is either Minato or Itachi. Even in his batshit insane persona, Sasuke's much much smexier than Naruto.
Kushina just helped Naruto get his awesome transformation. Naruto did most of the work.
That said, I wonder what Gaara's going through now. For most of his life until now, he's thought that his mother hated him. Let's see if he freaks out like Sasuke did.

Fair enough. Hearing it from another person is reassuring. stick out tongue

His awesomeness was too much for Muu ?


Well he's certainly squandering his forces easily. Orochimaru did more with 2, than Kabuto's done with 20.

Also, yeah, Gaara was extremely small as a baby. Like what, 3 inches in length?


[SPOILER - highlight to read]: He was a tall 6 year old. And I meant sexist female ninja, loser. And yeah Kushina made him do most of the work. She doesn't baby her brat like Karura.
I dunno. He has become pretty stable all things considered, so he should take it much better than the already anti-hero Sasuke.

Course my explaination was better than any you could give.

Indeed, that is probably the case.


Well, them being able to talk makes it very easy to do something about it. I'd rather have control over one of the Kage than Toroi for goodness's sake.

I dunno. But I don't know if a baby that small could survive. Not that I'm an expert. I'll probably go ask!

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Interesting that this confirms there is some biju compatibility factor that can be detected at birth. Gaara had it, Temari and Kankuro didn't, even all being siblings.



Nah. It's just a limitation on the jutsu, and taking full control requires extra efforts.

Even if they talk away, he still has their combat power.


Indeed. This also implies Minato got really lucky. Or maybe Gaara's family is not as leet as Kushina's.

I'd rather my Kage ninja be complete killers than being able to explain their techniques.

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Indeed. This also implies Minato got really lucky. Or maybe Gaara's family is not as leet as Kushina's.

The Uzumaki clan have chakra that is extra-effective against biju. It makes sense that they would have a large number of acceptable hosts.


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Yes, the Uzumakis don't have a biju-suppression power like Wood per se, but their extraordinary life force and chakra thing seems to make them pretty guaranteed hosts.

So Naruto may be a little lucky, but his odds were plenty high to begin with.

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[SPOILER - highlight to read]: For most of his life until now, he's thought that his mother hated him. Let's see if he freaks out like Sasuke did.


[SPOILER - highlight to read]: I can't see finding out he was *more* loved making him flip out!


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Naruto is the best character in the series at times.

I do like Gaara, but he can sometimes be stupid. Since the time skip, he hasn't done a single think that I did not like. He's just awesome, now. And I Liked that Onoki backed up Gaara to sass off to the Yondaime Kazekage. You go girl...boy.


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I found Gaara annoying at the kage council. But I am liking him more now. I'm hoping this fight picks up a bit and we see him stretched to his limits.


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Re-reading this chapter, I want to comment how much Gaara seems to be kicking his dad's ass, sand control to sand control. Twice now has he grabbed the kage, while also blocking everything the fourth threw at him. He's beating his dad in multi-tasking and precision.

And Gaara's dad isn't even like some of the others, he doesn't have a soft-spot for Gaara. At least, prior to the recent revelations.


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have to agree with you there. Gaara really did take the spotlight for this chapter. it was even commented in the manga ages ago that his control over sand has gotten much better ever since Shukaku was extracted from him. I suppose this chapter reflects that.

well, it seemed that the feeling seemed mutual; the other kages didn't really seem too friendly towards Gaara's dad.

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Re-reading this chapter, I want to comment how much Gaara seems to be kicking his dad's ass, sand control to sand control. Twice now has he grabbed the kage, while also blocking everything the fourth threw at him. He's beating his dad in multi-tasking and precision.

And Gaara's dad isn't even like some of the others, he doesn't have a soft-spot for Gaara. At least, prior to the recent revelations.

I agree, Gaara's father is obviously far below his son in power. It makes me wonder how he ever took on Shukaku alone. But it also makes sense, because magnet element was designed to imitate shukaku's abilities. Since Gaara=shukaku apparently even now, of course the imitation isn't as good as the original.

Now, dealing with them permanently is another issue. His sand coffin is pretty much useless. Even if he buries them deep, they can probably get out.


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[SPOILER - highlight to read]: He was a tall 6 year old. And I meant sexist female ninja, loser. And yeah Kushina made him do most of the work. She doesn't baby her brat like Karura.
I dunno. He has become pretty stable all things considered, so he should take it much better than the already anti-hero Sasuke.

Course my explaination was better than any you could give.

Indeed, that is probably the case.


Well, them being able to talk makes it very easy to do something about it. I'd rather have control over one of the Kage than Toroi for goodness's sake.

I dunno. But I don't know if a baby that small could survive. Not that I'm an expert. I'll probably go ask!



I'm talking about the Sage not being 6 when he sealed the Jubi. Ah, lol. Nah, even with the sexy harem jutsu, Konohamaru has Naruto beat. And females like Mei & Kurenai are even sexier. stick out tongue
Indeed, it shows that Karura cares more for her children's well-being than Kushina does.
Sasuke was pretty stable as well in Part 2. Plus he had excellent control over his emotions, even when facing Itachi, at least until he got FUBAR'd when Itachi used Susano'o.

Only when said explanations are completely derived and copied from mine.

Askallexperts? stick out tongue

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[SPOILER - highlight to read]: I can't see finding out he was *more* loved making him flip out!


Sure, if it were some other person. Gaara loved his mother more than anything else while growing up. Yashamaru then told him that his mother hated him, and that he was never loved. So, until now, Gaara still thought that his actual mother never loved him. Just that confession of Yondy was enough to pierce through Gaara's normally calm demeanor in part 2.
Though yeah, current Gaara probably won't flip out, at least not like Sasuke did.


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I'm talking about the Sage not being 6 when he sealed the Jubi. Ah, lol. Nah, even with the sexy harem jutsu, Konohamaru has Naruto beat. And females like Mei & Kurenai are even sexier. stick out tongue
Indeed, it shows that Karura cares more for her children's well-being than Kushina does.
Sasuke was pretty stable as well in Part 2. Plus he had excellent control over his emotions, even when facing Itachi, at least until he got FUBAR'd when Itachi used Susano'o.

Only when said explanations are completely derived and copied from mine.

Askallexperts? stick out tongue


And I'm telling you that he was and he was just incredibly tall at his age. Konohamaru has admitted that Naruto is sexier. I kinda get Mei but I was never much attracted to Kurenai. I kinda like my woman to matter and all.
Cares enough about them to spoil them rotten so that when they finally do feel pain, he loses his shit. Oh and thanks for not playing favorites mommy. Kushina was toughening her kid before he was born, like an awesome mom.
IDK about that. He was clearly more revenge obsessed than before. Yeah he wasn't on the slippery slope of insanity, but his primary focus on revenge is certainly not a healthy thing and makes the whole incident afterwards a lot more...meaningful.

Nah bro. Copied would imply you did some work while explaining.

YES I WILL! ALL WOMEN READING THIS: CAN A BABY FEASIBLY BE THAT TINY AND STILL SURVIVE?

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