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Gregory
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The English Academy of Science laughed at Benjamin Franklin when he reported his discovery of the lightning rod, and the Academy refused to publish his report.


In the words of ... someone ... "They laughed at bozo the clown, too. Guess which you are (not you personally, lil bitchiness).

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In Japan, cold fusion is called New Hydrogen Energy, and that oil-dependent nation welcomes successful experiments.


They welcome it so much, in fact, that they've shut that program down.

The first thing I noticed about this was that many of the sources were ... how to say this politely ... a tad disreputable? "Atlantas Rising?" Have you looked at that magazine? It's a complete rag.


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Glad someone actually read it. I remember finding this, very interesting stuff.


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Impressive!


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i didnt read it as fact, i read it because it was interesting... theres not much evidence to support it all, but some of it seems quite plausible.
im not sure about the Zero-point thing tho, after reading it again...since by definition 0K is the absence of energy, and even the tiniest movement produces some sort of energy. no matter how hard we try no1 will ever be able to "produce" energy. it has to be tapped from somewhere, and to tap it from something as miniscule as quantum fluctuations would require alot more energy input than output.... especially since the scale of energy these quantum fluctuations would have to have to register as "0K" would be miniscule, to non-existent

The water one tho sounds sort've plausable, since Hydrogen is a highly combustable element, however im not sure on the energy requirements for resonance frequencies to be able to split water.
"John Worrell Keely reportedly performed feats which 20th-century science is unable to duplicate" that makes me a little bit sceptical tho


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I thought the ideas were interesting, but honestly after reading that I feel kinda simple minded. I didn't read the whole thing but I read the first two and part of the 3rd and quit because I just couldn't understand what they were talking about. Too much science jargon for me I guess.

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A couple of these won't be implemeted because they are based on things that are not provable, i.e. "life-forces" and "spirituality". The others wont' be accepted because they cost too damn much to set up. And even another two or three won't start up because they are actually impossible for today's technology.

Good read though.


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Very long but interesting thought!Do you mean Big brother from the book 1984?Or someone else.JM


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Its a metaphore for the controling goverment we have today - but it was ment to mean the same.


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Cool!I had no idea!Good thread!jm


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Too many big words....head hurts....must sleep now.


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Interesting read, and I'm sure in the perfect society/world we'd probably use stuff like that but while the 'Mr Bigs' who run the world are only interested in how much profit they can wring from us they wont happen.

Roll on Eutopia!


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Roll on eutopia? You canines will roll on anything, won't you?


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maybe stupid question...
(no, i haven't read everything )

but do those stuff exist? blink


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All of this is old stuff, stuff that has been tossed about for years, especially on Art Bell's radio show.

Frankly, I don't believe any of it except the Tesla Coil. That's very real. Unfortunately, those who are in control in America made sure that Tesla's work would be in vain.

The sad thing is that Tesla is also officially credited with inventing radio, even though you only hear about Marconi in the press and on TV.

I do, however, believe that Ed Leedskalnin did use some kind of supernatural force to build the Coral Castle. For some reason, I don't have a problem believing that.


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Someone watches to many conspiracy theory shows wink


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Its not a conspiracy theory - besides as I already mentioned, almost a year ago - its not impossible

''When Leonardo da Vinci sketched out an impossible invention, fifteenth-century scholars probably put him down. Forget it, Leon. If machines could fly, we'd know about it.''


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do you know where i can pick up the cliff notes version? :confusion:


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The sad thing is that Tesla is also officially credited with inventing radio, even though you only hear about Marconi in the press and on TV.


The only reason he is officially credited by the US for doing that is because Marconi's company was suing the US Government for breaching his patent. So the Supreme Court simply reversed that patent and gave it to Tesla instead.

If you are going to say Tesla did it, you may as well say Faraday, Hertz and several others did as well, because Marconi used lots of other people's equipment in the construction of the first functioning wireless telegraph. It is Marconi who made what we today call the radio possible- he is the person directly responsible for its modern presence.


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I read the whole thing, and then did some research on several of the scientists mentioned. A large number of them did have their research buried under government beauracracy and secrecy clauses. However, others seem to have simply been off their rockers.


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