lol, werent the uruks just orcs and men now that im tryin to find out more aobut it,,, and they were mainly bred like that to resist sun,,,,, and dont they just have pointy ears cause orcs do?/???
Pointed ears do not necessarily refer to Elves - and they also didnt have these long thin ears like the film-orcs had, their ears were just a little more leaf-shaped than mortal ears (hey and in the film, hobbits also have pointy ears!) - cf. the elvish words "lhaw" and "lhass"/"las" for "ear" and "leaf".
I dont think the Uruk-hai also had so much troll blood - maybe a little, but not too much. They are simply a race of orcs, only Saruman breeded them with other orcs and goblinmen so that Saruman's so-called Urukhai were most probably rather halforcs.
Tolkien also gives at least four different explanations for the origin of the orcs.
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also, the secret ingrediant wouldnt be love....it would be malic, evil, death, no mercy...
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I don't remember Saruman having Uruk Hai. He had half-orcs or goblinmen. Uruk Hai means Uruk-great Hai-people. Morgoth (Melkor) tortured and twisted Elves to form the original Orcs. As far as Trolls being constructs, some may be. I'll have to reread some things. However the Olog Hai (the ones smashing the Godorians in Minas Tirith), were definately bred. Again I will have to do some rereading, but they are a cross between Trolls and something.
Exactly; though the leaders of his armies were probably Uruk-hai.
In the book, there's also obviously not such a big optical difference between men and orcs - there were also goblinmen (halforcs) in the Prancing Pony without being payed too much attention, Treebeard thought the Hobbits were Orcs and so on. Normal Orcs and goblinmen also dont seem to have had black colour like in the film, only the uruks of mordor did.
Some days ago I again read some text which made clear that there was no real orc-breeding but that they were able to multiply normally :P (and that that worked quite fast "they multiplied like flies" or something like that )
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Some Orcs were described to have dark skin..(not necessarily black though)..but I didn't imagine them to look like the way they did in the movie. In fact, I didn't imagine them to look that ugly.
It's all good though, adds to the creepiness and believability.
If you watch the Battle of Pellenor Fields, you can catch Orcs of all types. There are even some that almost look manlike. Some have dark skin, some have lighter skin. Some look almost piglike in the face. Some look almost manlike. They did a real good job of showing how different one Orc is from another. Remember Orcs come from all over ME. Some live in caves. Some live aboveground in Mordor. Mordor's terrain is extremely varied as well. There's mountains, deserts, wheat fields, a saltwater sea, etc.
I also didnt think they were that ugly... actually I didnt think they looked so different from men at all.
On the other hand I also didnt think elves were that prissy
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"they multiplied like flies" or something like that 
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