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Originally posted by Blue nocturne
Again mutations do not create new traits ever.


What New Traits are you refering to then?


Would you need to see a Dog that through Mutation got usable wiungs to believe? Well, that's not how it works....


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What New Traits are you refering to then?


Would you need to see a Dog that through Mutation got usable wiungs to believe? Well, that's not how it works....


How do you know it works, you simply believe?

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Someone answer my one question and I'll shut up

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So how do these random mutations create complex organs perfect for survival when they can't create new traits or information????


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How do you know it works, you simply believe?


Oh, I don't know, that's why it is a "theory" ... but there is quite a lot of evidence pointing at it being a very good estimate...sure it probably still needs further adjustment but it makes very good sense...if I'd intelligently design a species one day I'd cerrtainly include Evolution...


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Oh, I don't know, that's why it is a "theory" ... but there is quite a lot of evidence pointing at it being a very good estimate...sure it probably still needs further adjustment but it makes very good sense...if I'd intelligently design a species one day I'd cerrtainly include Evolution...


Right,so can you answer my question or what.

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Someone answer my one question and I'll shut up


It doesn't right away, it'S not a thing that happens in one generation..


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It doesn't right away, it'S not a thing that happens in one generation..


But how does it?

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Well I'm waiting answer my simple stupid question.


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Evolution takes a long, long, long time.
Sit and watch your fingernails grow, just do that for an hour. Seeing any changes?
Evolution is a million times slower.


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Evolution takes a long, long, long time.
Sit and watch your fingernails grow, just do that for an hour. Seeing any changes?
Evolution is a million times slower.


That's nice now how do mutations create new traits when they cannot.

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Humour... You gotta love it.

For those of you who haven't swallowed a bible
http://www.csicop.org/intelligentdesignwatch/
http://skepdic.com/intelligentdesign.html
http://skepdic.com/creation.html

All the arguments we've been through a billion times gatheren on a few webpages! It's a good read. Enjoy smile


Okay now stop avoiding my question.

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Quite good Omega...


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Originally posted by Blue nocturne
That's nice now how do mutations create new traits when they cannot.


WHy do you assume they cannot?


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WHy do you assume they cannot?


Because mutation is a break or replacement of information, If I bombed a building the structure would change but it wouldn't have new features now answer my question and I'll shut up.

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How would I grow wings due to mutation?


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A mutation is an alteration,so how does it create new traits like darwinsit claim.


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Originally posted by Blue nocturne
How would I grow wings due to mutation?


You wouldn't...your DNA is set.

And Mutation is a change in the DNA that's why something new can be created. If you change the blueprints of a house before it is built the house will look different afterwards, will it not?


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You wouldn't...your DNA is set.

And Mutation is a change in the DNA that's why something new can be created. If you change the blueprints of a house before it is built the house will look different afterwards, will it not?


EDIT: You just answerd my question

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Originally posted by Bardock42
You wouldn't...your DNA is set.


Bardock no offense but hit the books a mutation isn't a addition it's an alteration of already existing genetic info new genetic info cannot and has not been created through mutations, this is why evolution falls apart.

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Originally posted by Blue nocturne
A mutation is an alteration,so how does it create new traits like darwinsit claim.


Are you lactose-tolerant?

That in itself is a mutation. Originally humans did not create the enzyme needed to break down lactose, since it is found in cow's milk and isn't natural to the human body. Since people began drinking cow's milk, people have over time adapted to be able to break down lactose in their bodies. Those who are lactose-intolerant cannot do so because they do not have the DNA code that creates the enzyme.

Mutations are rare. Beneficial mutations to the DNA are even MORE rare. But they occur, and if they do, they can be passed on, creating a new trait.

And yes, new traits can be created by an alteration of DNA coding. It's really not that hard to understand and I fail to see how people cannot grasp that concept, since genetics is probably the easiest thing in biology to understand.


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