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Did qui gon know padme was the queen?
I know this is not an important topic, but I was wondering what you guys would say about this...
I kind of seamed like qui gon was messing with padme with lines like:
"the queen trusts my jugdement...so should you"
"the queen does not need to know...."
look at his face after he says that, it's funny but I got the feeling he knew and was just having fun with the idea...almost like he was taunting her or teasing.
I can't figure out if he is surprised like everyone else or just looking at obi wan to see his reaction or if obi wan sensed it as well....
this is just a thought...I am not saying he did know..just want your thougts on it
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Sep 27th, 2000 09:04 AM |
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It's seems to me that he did know and he knew he could do whatever he felt he needed to because she's have to divulge her identity in order to get things her way. I like how she ended up pouting in Mos Espa because she knew she had to let him have Anakin race.
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Sep 27th, 2000 09:12 AM |
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did qui gon know padme was the queen?
Yea! so I'm not crazy?...there is a hint of qui gon baiting her into slipping or something...
thanks for the input
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Sep 27th, 2000 09:16 AM |
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Ratcat
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Re: did qui gon know padme was the queen?
I agree, his look when she reveal this to the Gungans is like, "so you finally revealed it huh?"
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Sep 27th, 2000 12:41 PM |
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Re: did qui gon know padme was the queen?
in the book by terry brooks, there is that scene where the fake amidala says, "either decision means grave danger, for us all" and lookes over her shoulder. then padme says, "we are brave your highness" and as qui gon reflects on that, he realizes, that this was a wierd interchange between those two.
yeah, i'm sure he knew
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Sep 27th, 2000 06:27 PM |
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Re: did qui gon know padme was the queen?
It doesn't really say that if you review the text.
Queen Amidala brought up her hand sharply to silence the debate. Turning from her governor and head of security and the Jedi as well, she looked suddenly to her handmaidens, who were pressed close about here. "Either choice presents great risk to all of us...," she said softly, looking from face to face.
Qui-Gon watched the exchange, puzzled. What was the Queen seeking?
The handmaidens glanced at one another, faces barely visible within the confines of red and gold hooded robes. All were silent.
Finally, one spoke. "We are brave, Your Highness," Padmé said firmly.
Alarms continued to sound. "If you are to leave, Your Highness, it must be now," Qui-Gon urged.
Pg 87-88
And then they go, so there is no mention of Qui-Gon's suspicion in the book.
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Sep 27th, 2000 07:27 PM |
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Re: did qui gon know padme was the queen?
the reference comes a bit later from where you were just quoting. later (i don't have the book in front of me right here) qui-gon thinks back on that encounter and thinks something like "queen amidala had made the decision, but not exactly" referring to the handmaiden. Ratcat, you've got the book there, it's a few pages or chapters later than where you just were. if you can't find it, i will find it and post it here tomorrow.
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Sep 27th, 2000 09:28 PM |
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Re: did qui gon know padme was the queen?
Can you, I would but I'm in the middle of pack for my vacation. I was surprised I couldn't find it, and had just a little TOO much time on my hands at the time I replied  .
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Sep 28th, 2000 03:23 AM |
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did qui gon know padme was the queen
very cool gang! I'm glad I mentioned this!!
I did read the book and I wish they put more of it in the actual movie...like the tatooine saber fight...doesn't darth maul jump onto the ship after qui gon ?...
also, anakin fighting the red head kid...qui gon breaks up the fight or something....
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Sep 28th, 2000 09:02 AM |
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Re: did qui gon know padme was the queen
Yeah I wonder if GL is ever going to go back and add that scene in...What do you think?
XC? think we would pick on you and tear you down? Good topic
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Sep 28th, 2000 11:40 AM |
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I loved the whole injured Tusken raider scene and was really diappointed when that didn't happen.
OK, possitvely my last pre-vacation post.
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Sep 28th, 2000 03:06 PM |
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Re: did qui gon know padme was the queen
okay, here is the quote. this is from TPM page 103. This scene is on the Naboo cruiser after the escape from Naboo with the help of R2-D2. This is where Panaka is telling Amidala about their escape thanks to the droid.
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Queen Amidala leaned forward, and a slender white hand came out to touch the droid's domed casing. "Thank you Artoo-Detoo. You have proven both loyal and brave." She glanced over her shoulder. "Padme."
One of her handmaidens came forward. Qui-gon Jinn, listening to the exchange with half an ear as he considered the problems that lay ahead on Tatooine, noticed that it was the young woman who had supported the Queen's decision to escape from Naboo. He frowned. Except, it hadn't been exactly like that . . .
"See to the cleaning up of this little droid." The Queen was speaking to the girl. "Artoo-Detoo deserves our gratitude." She turned back to Panaka. "Please continue with your report Captain."
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The fact that terry brooks put those words in there at all, including the elipses ( . . .) suggests that qui-gon did have a pretty good idea, even if he wasn't 100% sure. and, brooks wasn't going to come right out and have qui-gon saying, "hey, you're the queen aren't you!" that would spoil the moment when she finally reveals herself to boss nass.
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Sep 28th, 2000 06:12 PM |
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Re: did qui gon know padme was the queen
Yeah, it looks like he did know..thanks for finding that, tainted one
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Sep 29th, 2000 04:03 AM |
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Re: did qui gon know padme was the queen
Does anyone else think it is strange that the fake Queen asked Padme(the real one) to clean ARTOO? There were other less important handmaidens on the ship.
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Sep 30th, 2000 01:23 AM |
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Qui-Gon and the queen
I always wondered that too KJ, maybe she did for fun, knowing the Queen wouldn't say anything to spoil her secret identidy
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Sep 30th, 2000 01:32 AM |
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Re: Qui-Gon and the queen
Or maybe she knew that Padme would want a closer look at R2?
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Sep 30th, 2000 08:36 PM |
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Of course he knew...you don't make yoda's deans list just by swinging a lightsaber in a fancy circle. He was just humoring her, probably figuring if they ran into any serious trouble, he and obi wan could protect her. Unfortunatly they didn't, as that would have been an excellent opportunity for Jar Jar to become Bantha Poodoo.
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Welcome new person.
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Oct 1st, 2000 06:18 AM |
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did qui gon know padme was the queen?
I do remember specifically thinking.....geeeezzz, this fake queen is getting carried away telling padme to clean R2....like the queen was thinking "I she kidding me!?"
On the other hand, notice that padme does not leave immediately...she hangs out and listens to the discussion and is now facing the fake queen durring the discusion....I was wondering if the fake queen was just trying to get padme in her line of site to make a desion w/ padme's help etc.
or she was just really trying to sell the whole thing by having padme do a trivial task etc....if anyone was suspicious, this stunt would put an end to there suspicions.....actually....I think I'm really over-analylizing this one!!
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Oct 1st, 2000 11:21 AM |
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Dim
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Re: did qui gon know padme was the queen?
No..I think you have some valid points..It would make sense that Sabe needed Padme in her line of sight..and I like the idea of dispelling any suspicions that others might have that she's not the real queen..
Good points XC!
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