well its still a even fight, but the polls would never help in a match with these too, like i said before wolvie's fan base is huge, and Venom is suverly underated buy most who dont know him.
he cant shake the "big idiot who is just stronger than spidey image"
Venom would completely kill Wolverine, based on just a few assumptions.
a) Aside from the superfast healing, the claws, and the unbreakable bones, Wolverine is only human. Sure, tough and strong, but only human.
b) Venom is not.
There are very few ways Wolverine could bring harm to Venom, but all Venom has to do is strangle or suffocate Wolverine, and he has a great many opportunities to do so.
Plus, Venom can lift 11 tons. I don't know what kind of lifting that is, whether it's bench press or squat or power clean or what, but he is still very strong. A man with a reasonable amount of martial arts training, who is a reasonably good athlete, can put over 2,000 PSI in a kick. Assuming that venom can squat 11 tons, and assuming (generously) that a good athlete can squat 500 pounds...
11 tons is 22,000 pounds. 22,000/500 is 44. So 2,000 PSI times 44 is 88,000 PSI. 44 tons.
Do you know what happens if you are kicked with 88,000 pounds per square inch? If you are hit in the stomach, not only will your ribs break, but your insides will literally turn to jelly. That will break any bones that are even in the area.
A kick like that to the head will transfer so much shock into Wolverine's brain he will be immediately knocked unconscious, killed, or given a stroke. Into the throat, and his entire throat will be crushed, flooding his lungs with blood. Into the chest, and the rigid skeleton will absorb all the force, the vibrations causing serious damage to the diaphragm and the entire lung area. Wolverine cannot realistically hope to win.
Yeah but super-strength is always treated strangley in comics. People are punched by other people who have super-strength and they don't die, when they logically should, as you stated. Wolverine has taken punches from the Hulk, who can lift over 100 tons, so I'm sure he could take some from Venom. What issues have they fought in?
Well technically Wolvie could take a punch from anyone, his skeleton is unbreakable. but I never thought of Venom as a super brute its his other abilties that carry him threw. the strength is just a nice bonus.
Venom and Wolverine fought in
Marvel present Wolverine vs Venom117 threw about 125
Wolverine vs Venom
Venom:tooth and Claw((hardly a fight they worked together))
Venom:Run((this was the Venom monster, a mutated version of the symbiote with no host))
venomfan is right. wolverine wins on a popularity basis. objectively speaking though, i think venom wins hands down. not only is he stronger, but a lot quicker and definitely a lot more agile. you don't see wolverine leaping through buildings. besides, venom has shown that he can withstand wolvi's claws.
yeah, but like I always say, any body can kick somebodys ass.
Venom would get pawned by the Shocker, and I doubt Wolverine would have ANY trouble with him. and I stress ANY cuase Shocker is a *****.
Na, I think Venom would find a way around shockers powers to beat him the say way he put out the human torch once (though the technique would'nt work again).
Venom could beat Wolvie fairly easily. Just imagin venom holding Wolvies arms apart (with his superior super strength) while holding Wolvies legs with thick tendrals from the symbiote. Then imagine Venom using his symbiote to go into Wolvies head and body cutting inbetween Wolvies flesh and his Adm skeleton and then scoping or sucking all of Wolvies flesh and organs off or out of Wolvies body and skeleton at once which Venom would then proceed to tear apart and pound till Wolvie was no more but a Adm covered skeleton (kinda grusome but within Venom's style).
Even if Venom didn't have super strength, he would still win. Think of it this way- Venom is almost like a liquid. You hit him, and he can flow away. He can lash forward.
You grab his arms, he can suck them back into his body. You even try to advance on him, and he will find the weak point of your advance and cut you open. He can cut and cut and cut until Wolverine simply cannot heal anymore.
The body cannot heal indefinitely. It requires resources, nutrients, and energy in order to replace damaged parts. All this requires food. So unless Wolverine is carrying a sandwich, a fight with Venom is not a fight he could win.
Well I guess you could make the argument that Wolvie asorbs molecules from the air and converts the moleculals to new material to use to patch wounds, or something to that degree regarding the fact that I've seen some comic books in which Wolvie regenerats a lot, way more tissue and such being replaced then his body would be able to carry (though I do see the logic behind your point of view).
I've no idea, but that's kinda the point I was trying to bring up in my "Venom scoopoing (sucking) all of Wolvie's tissue off his skeleton and then destroying it" idea.
wolverine would win it be close but wolverine can take more hits. he also might be weaker the vemon in stength wich wont help venom much att all since wolverine is the best fighter out of any one in marvel or dc. oh and he also has taken on people much stronger then venom like the hulk. also he has taken beaten from the hulk abd go right back up. even in venom on the run he was incerated and was up and full heal in under a minut. also his claws just easly go through venom so in the end venom would lose but venom woudl put up a fight but he would surly lose.
I think you overestimate Wolvie too much. Venom isn't just stronger than Wolvie, but you could argue he's more agile too. Additionally with Venom's ablility to thrash tendrils around he could easily grab and hold Wolvie or slow him down with webbing and then grab him (yes I know Wolvie could cut through the webbing and possibly Venom's suit but it would still take time + Venom could hold Wolvie's claws away from cutting the webbing and such).
Venom can also camoflague himself so he can't be seen. Wolvie would be able to smell him of course, but what if Venom only camoflagued part of his suit, so when Wolvie is looking at Venom an invisible tendril sneaks up quickly and quietly from behind to grab and hold Wolvie for a pounding. And then of course there is the whole Venom scooping Wolvie's tissue and ogrgans off of his Adm Skeleton and then smashinkg his tissue to nothing.
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