roughrider
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by -Pr-
superman also stated that even subconsciously, he always holds back.
You mean like Thor always says he holds back?
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May 11th, 2010 03:28 PM
-Pr-
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by roughrider
You mean like Thor always says he holds back?
Superman doesn't always do it intentionally, though.
Plus, When have Orion, Grundy or Mongul ever matched his strength?
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May 11th, 2010 08:32 PM
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'Nuff said.
Yeah basically. His powers increase the longer he's exposed to a yellow sun though I'm wondering how then are the other kryptonians already as stronger as him after just a few months of exposure heck, Non even seems stronger than him.
May 13th, 2010 07:06 AM
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um, in the latest issue of war of the supermen, doesn't supes take on zod, ursa, and non all at the same time? i mean, brushes non and ursa aside like they're nothing the whole fight. also, he seems to be winning against the three of them.
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May 17th, 2010 12:21 AM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by -Pr-
Superman doesn't always do it intentionally, though.
Plus, When have Orion, Grundy or Mongul ever matched his strength?
You're kidding right? About Orion I mean. Orion is unquestionably Superman's physical equal and in my opinion maybe even slightly stronger.
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May 17th, 2010 12:52 AM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Omega Vision
You're kidding right? About Orion I mean. Orion is unquestionably Superman's physical equal and in my opinion maybe even slightly stronger.
then you'd be wrong, bucko.
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May 17th, 2010 05:42 AM
Rage.Of.Olympus
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Orion physically stronger than Superman? I'd say his closer to Wonder Woman than Superman from what I've seen personally. At least when push comes to shove and Superman kicks it up a notch.
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May 17th, 2010 05:51 AM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Omega Vision
You're kidding right? About Orion I mean. Orion is unquestionably Superman's physical equal and in my opinion maybe even slightly stronger.
I disagree !
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May 17th, 2010 02:25 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by roughrider
Two important factors about his strength & endurance.
(1) Superman's greatest feats of strength have happened while he's been flying. This leads to the idea that he's using a different power source while performing such a feat. You'd think someone often described as a 'planet mover' would be virtually unmatched - but non-flying bricks like Darkseid (OK he can levitate), Mongul, Doomsday, Orion and Solomon Grundy have all matched - if not exceeded - his strength levels h2h on some occasions.
I agree with this btw - It would explain a lot of inconsistency.
Not that any authors have officially adopted it - but its almost a meta fictional rule .... Similar to following; 1.) those with super durability seem to be able to inexplicably boost their inertia, whenever they are hit, preventing them from accelerating in the opposite direction at huge velocities 2.) indirect shock waves are absorbed by charcters with super durability. 3.) Characters can dodge bullets if they are quicker than the person pulling the trigger - meta fictional rules that are prominent in comics, but aren't official.
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May 17th, 2010 02:35 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by -Pr-
then you'd be wrong, bucko.
quote: (post ) Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Orion physically stronger than Superman? I'd say his closer to Wonder Woman than Superman from what I've seen personally. At least when push comes to shove and Superman kicks it up a notch.
Seconded...or, thirded, rather.
May 18th, 2010 03:44 AM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Orion physically stronger than Superman? I'd say his closer to Wonder Woman than Superman from what I've seen personally. At least when push comes to shove and Superman kicks it up a notch.
I think Superman is slightly stronger than Orion not as big of a gap as between WW and Superman.
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May 18th, 2010 05:23 PM
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Orion not being stronger than Superman is resonable. Him being closer to Wonder Woman than Superman is asinine.
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May 18th, 2010 07:17 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Philosophía
Orion not being stronger than Superman is resonable. Him being closer to Wonder Woman than Superman is asinine.
QFT
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May 18th, 2010 07:52 PM
kgkg
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Very few character can match Superman in the Strength category. Superman just becomes as stronger as the character he is fighting most of the time.
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May 18th, 2010 11:35 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by kgkg
Very few character can match Superman in the Strength category. Superman just becomes as stronger as the character he is fighting most of the time.
The Only characters I would say for SURE are physically stronger (And I mean physically - not powerful). Are derivatives of himself; I.e. K.C., One Million (You know what I mean) and Prime. I wouldn't even put my money on team wreckers like Despro being stronger; definitely more powerful - but I don't think their stronger.
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May 19th, 2010 12:29 AM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Cartesian Doubt
The Only characters I would say for SURE are physically stronger (And I mean physically - not powerful). Are derivatives of himself; I.e. K.C., One Million (You know what I mean) and Prime. I wouldn't even put my money on team wreckers like Despro being stronger; definitely more powerful - but I don't think their stronger.
What about PC Validus?
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May 19th, 2010 01:01 AM
Rage.Of.Olympus
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Philosophía
Orion not being stronger than Superman is resonable. Him being closer to Wonder Woman than Superman is asinine.
Meh. If Superman was 100, I'd rank Wonder Woman at around 85 and Orion in the low to mid 90's.
He just hasn't impressed me as much as he has others it seems.
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May 19th, 2010 01:18 AM
Rage.Of.Olympus
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Enyalus
Seconded...or, thirded, rather.
Where've you been you bastard?
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May 19th, 2010 01:19 AM
Rage.Of.Olympus
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by quanchi112
I think Superman is slightly stronger than Orion not as big of a gap as between WW and Superman.
I agree. The gap between Superman and Orion is clearly smaller than the gap between Superman and Diana.
His somewhere near the middle of the gap between Superman and Wonder Woman in my opinion.
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May 19th, 2010 01:20 AM
quanchi112
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by kgkg
Very few character can match Superman in the Strength category. Superman just becomes as stronger as the character he is fighting most of the time.
No, the guy has limits and can't match up with the Hulk in terms of strength or the Sentry. Superman is still an equal to Marvel in strength.
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