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Neo is not supposed to be like Jesus?
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The is also the most obvious reference to religion in the third film.

When Neo is in the heart of machine city, he gets jacked in. Notice he looks a lot like Christ when Christ was crucified. Arms spred out, etc. Not only that, but he sacrafices himself to save the rest.


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Do not forget that King Nebuchadnezzar was given a dream that no man could interpret, but Daniel. Daniel recieved a vision from God, which was the dream given to the King. Nebuchadnezzar also 'saw the writing on the wall'. And yes, he allowed the 'chosen people' to be freed.


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I heard that Neo is suppose to be jusus.........if you have said this above dont blaim me i havnt read it.

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well...the merovingians were a highly powerful and wealthy family in france in like the 14th century i believe...sumthin like that...anyways they founded paris (i beilive thsi is y he's french...)
um...theres a religious meaning too..sumthin to do directly w/God and them...but i forgot exactly what it is


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as was said before, the Merovingians said they were direct descendants of Jesus and Mary Magdalene...and Neo is not supposed to be like Jesus, although there are similarities, there are also vast differences and we have discussed this before.


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Neo being the Christ and Smith the Antichrist right ...? This can also be interpreted ....


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Well, Neo and Smith were opposites. It would only make sense if you interpret Neo as Christ.


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The religious side of The Matrix is the worst side. It's real lame to watch all the extremely obvious messages inbedded in the films.


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and here is our resident Matrix-basher...welcome back, BF...


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but neo has black hair not brown..and he dosnt have scars on his rists..

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what does that have to do with it?


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I don't think I've ever heard of that religion. What is it?

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In some ways I can see the argument for Neo not supposed to be Jesus. I mean if he were Jesus then we would have to explain the five predecessors part.

But here is another question then. If he is not supposed to be Jesus then who else does Neo remind you of?

This is not a rhetorical question, I want answers.


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Six versions of the Matrix and the world was created in six days. Coincidence?


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but neo has black hair not brown..and he dosnt have scars on his rists..


And as far as I know, there was not an agent that made him wear a crown of thorns either, but we are using symbolism here.

You must bear in mind that if, on his way to the machine city, Neo was carrying a giant cross, God could have sued the W. Brothers for plagerism.


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Neo reminds me of Neo. As i have stated before, yes, there are similarities between Neo and Jesus. However, there are also immense differences which cannot be ignored. Neo is a concatenation of all 'Messiahs' throughout every religion, and we cannot just forget that. neo is the 'Enlightened one'. He is the 'Conquering Warrior', the 'Suffering Servant'. He is the one whom everyone can look at and say, 'now he reminds me of so-and-so', the one everyone can look up to. Saying Neo is Jesus is blatantly disregarding the facts.


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Yeah ... However ... You can relate the last supper with a scene in the movie ...

... remember in the first Matrix movie when Neo talked to Cypher on the Neb ... they had a drink togheder ... now remember Jesus' Last Supper .. where he gave to the trator a piece of bread (or in the christian catholic religion a glass of wine) ...

...Now remember the smile on Cypher's face when he was jacked it the matrix and the hell started (after they went to the Oracle) .. this can be the Kiss of treason gave bu Juda when he had to identify Jesus for the guards


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just browsing through some threads and this one popped up:

just to clarify, the Merovingians were a dynasty which started already in 496 when Clovis got baptised and ended in 751 when Childerik II was placed in a monastery by Pipin III the short (dunno the english name so I took a guess), that's not the 14 century realworlddreams

to me, all this talk is just hugely overanalysing, but heck, that's not the subject nor worth discussing since it's a private view

but anyway, saying that the Merovingians claimed they descended from God, that's wrong, they traditionaly boost that they either come from Noah, Abraham or Adam.
and it was "tradition" in that time to say such things.
Cassiodurs did it for the Ostrogoths, Isidorus of Seville for the Visigoths, etc.

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actually Niobe isnt the only one not dressed in black, in the first movie we had Switch who was dressed in white, then in the second Tirant who was dressed in red during hte meeting at the start, Ghost was also dressed in white(the motorway chase), and im sure there are a few others im forgetting


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