Oh no! The Venom/Guyver suit! You're right though, it wouldn't surprise me at this point. I hope they come up with something halfway decent if they play with his origin.
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GODAMMIT! I knew I was gonna get pulled up on that. I saw the mistake and was too lazy to change it, figuring nobody would notice my SINGLE spelling error in amongst so many other posts with TONS of spelling mistakes, but there ya go, proving me wrong.
Sorry for not being the ULTIMATE IN PERFECTION that I clearly appear to be.
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hey you know what? despite everyone whining about the organic webbing i found the first movie to be strangely ill. PPl have to realize that necessay changes R needed to lure PPl who werent fans. For example, in DD when a Black Guy played the Kingpin, and the movie was still a smash hit.However, getting back to the point, I am a little bit concerned with the fact that doc ock's apparatus in the new movie apperars to be an extra spinal column w/arms instead of the usual harness. I mean, logically speaking, shoudnt his body weight just cause him to rip right out of it? flesh, muscle, original spine and all?
If you are making that old moronic statement that organics were a neccessary change for the film and were needed to lure in ppl who werent fans, you dont have a freaking clue of what your talking about.
Dock Ock had his tentacles fused to his spine in the accident. This is actually (surprisingly) exactly how the comic book version was. It looks like the same thing happened.
You could probably rip him away from them like you said, but obviously that has the implication that HE WOULD BE DEAD.
Nobody has problems with Michael Clarke Duncan playing The Kingpin - because it had literally no effect on the story. Organic webshooters change the story, a flight costume for the Goblin changes the story (and his character since the Goblin costume was Normans mental image of what evil looked like), and a not-radioactive spider changes the story. A black Kingpin does bugger all. Daredevil's problems lied elsewhere (no Stick, his blindness was supposed to be a STRENGTH not a weakness etc) not with Kingpins casting.
*Points to the Superman movie*
There, there's a movie that at least stayed more loyal to the original "wacky" story and led "non-fans" to like Superman. It was HUGE. Therefore, stupid changes are never needed in these movies to lure new fans in or to be a huge success.
yes when peter loses his power. he dont get the org web back. so he make a new we shooter. as u can see on the trailer he fused doc oc tentacles with a misture of chemical webbing. the scene is one of the last short cuts on he international trailer.
dude i didnt mean N E thing malicious about kinpin being black. i was trying to make a point.(*especilally since im black) perhaps i should have explaoned nyself in greater detail.
Ok, this is for those who say organic webbing made Parker a "man spider monster"(i can't believe i missed all of this)
Stan Lee did NOT give Spiderman the correct powers of a spider in the first place. More like an ant.
Spiderman supposedly has the "proportional strength of a spider" this is WRONG. ANTS can lift 10 times their own weight(sometimes more), spiders cannot. If Peter had the proportional strength of a spider, he'd be lifting 5 tons max, not 10.(5 tons is still too much)
Spiders do not have a "spider sense" they have 8 eyes spread out on their heads, seeing forwards, sideways, and backwards at the same time. Not only that, but their vision is crap anyway(no better than ours), which means that Peter Parker not having to use his glasses anymore is also wrong.
Not all spiders have webbing, this is about the only thing Stan got right besides the wall-crawling ability.
If Spiderman DID have organic webbing, it would shoot out of his arms anyway. Spiders have the web-making gland in their abdomen because it is the most practical place to have them. In a human the mutation would occur in the most practical place, his arms. Besides that, we are talking about FANTASY, they could have made the webs shoot out of his eye sockets if they wanted.
By all means, if Stan Lee made Parker have the exact abilities of a spider, he SHOULD be a monster. Spiderman would look more like Doppleganger(the comic book readers should know who he is).
Stan Lee basically pulled Spiderman's abilities out of his ass, so adding organic webbing to his arms isn't too proposterous. The movie did however, did take away Parker's scientific genius, that i can agree with. They could(and should) have shown it in some other way besides web shooters.
My point is, that if Stan Lee, the creator of Spiderman, got it wrong, who's to say that the creators of the movie can't change a thing or two, to have his powers make more sense to the general audience? Gaining the knowledge to make web fluid is alot more fantastic than the body making it itself from the mutation. Do you think spiders actually know what the chemical compound of their webs are? No, they dont, just like most humans don't know the chemical compound of their own bodies(although, anyone who has taken a chemistry and a biology course, and paid attention, should know) and besides that, Stan has a say in every movie that Marvel produces since he is the co-creator and owner, so he must have OK'd the change.
In any case, it IS still fantasy, and with fantasy, anything you can imagine is made real(on paper at least).
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Thanks for the compliment RJ. Well, I didn't choose this name because I'm spider-ignorant, that's for sure. Hope that post doesn't sound like I hate Spiderman, he is actually one of my favorite comic characters.
As I have said many imes before, I would have loved to see webshooters, I was able to overlook them for other reasons though. Spider-Man was never my favorite hero because of his webshooters. Spidey never became as popular as he was because of his webshooters. I always loved Spider-Man because of how I could relate with Spidey. With his character, with his problems. I am able to overlook things like the shooters because of how well they did the rest, and how amazingly they are going to do that in the next one.
I almost feel sorry for those people who can't look past the small cosmetic things and see how amazing the stuff they did right was.
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I agree with arachnoidfreaks other post except how you said that since Spiders had bad vision that the part about Petey not needing his glasses was wrong, just remember that the spider that bit him was a "super spider"
In the movie it was an enhanced super spider, in the comics its just radioactive. So, in the movie he wouldn't need his glasses, but he still would in the comics. so yea, you're right...sorta.
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Jun 10th, 2004 03:24 PM
Finally, someone sees what i was saying before.
