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As anything really certain?
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Baylin
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It isnt? confused


Damn I was really certain it was! stick out tongue


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wink thats why uncertainty's so good

I like the reassurance part, I agree with that a lot.


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This is hard to reply because in reality we don't know what will happen to us in the future. So we don't know if some of the things we plan to achieve will be posible. All I can think right now is that we must fulfill our destiny (whatever it might be) so that when we die there won't be any regrets.


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I dont believe things are certain. Nothing in life is certain, because everything has an exception.


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gravity? that's pretty certain...by definition.


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The only thing that is for certain is [SPOILER - highlight to read]: that nothing is ever certain
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Originally posted by Fire
sure dexx, give an example of something that is certain, cause certains means that it will never ever change, which is impossible to prove

oh..i dunno..lots of small thigns...like..it is certain that i'm 17 years of age.
i could say that it is certain that the sun will rise tomorrow......that's acertainty for me.....and i'ma sking you if you're saying that there's a possibility for it to not rise. in that case.....your theory on anything not being certain is you accepting EVERY single theoretical and practical possibility. (ex: like it turning into a supernova tonight..and so on)


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Modern science is wrong if nothing is ever truly certain???

Decent scientists would be insulted. This isn't the Victorian Age any more, you know. Uncertainty is one of the base principles of science now.

However, I find philosophical scepticism very tiresome.


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eleveninches
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Have you never heard of the uncertainty principle?
Modern physics is all about uncertainty and probability, rather than classical newtonian physics.
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still BF if they find away to become immortal tomorrow, that statement is false as well, I know ppl will always look at this way of thinking as going for the impossible against all odds but it aint because there is only a 1 in 28000 billion that it wont happen


Well, to quote Omega, "If you wait long enough the improbable will happen, if you wait forever the impossible will happen." However, we theoretically can't wait forever to find a way to become immortal since for the moment we're not... I'm not making sense am I happy


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quote:
Originally posted by Ushgarak
Modern science is wrong if nothing is ever truly certain???

Decent scientists would be insulted. This isn't the Victorian Age any more, you know. Uncertainty is one of the base principles of science now.

However, I find philosophical scepticism very tiresome.


than they should change they way they put things now a days

and indeed scepticism is very tiresome


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Originally posted by eleveninches
Have you never heard of the uncertainty principle?
Modern physics is all about uncertainty and probability, rather than classical newtonian physics.


classic newtonian physics is still tought at ppl all over the world tho


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well, they teach the foundations of physics with newtonian physics, but if you go into modern and theoretical physics, the newtonian laws of physics dont work, and in modern physics, nothing is certain. There are degrees of certainty and confidence.
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true but even those basic laws of physics which as you said is newtonian physics is wrong, they should teach ppl that big grin


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Baylin
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Well I guess we've just discovered a certainty - people will always be mis-informed!


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Fire
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maybe Baylin, maybe tomorrow someone invents the way to get all knowledge in a second and then we won't be


But I suggest we drop the science stuff, I shouldn't have written modern day sciences, everyone happy now? stick out tongue


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y...no... I still want to annoy Storm about this
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Fire
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lol not atm mate not atm stick out tongue


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*sits down and patiently waits turns*
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It doesn't matter if they find a way to stop death by natural cuases. The earth will still be incinerated by the sun in a few billion years and all those Immortal people will die anyways.

Death is inevitable, no matter what is done. Everyone is going to die someday.


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