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yerssot
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but rather unlikely to get fixed by the end of the day and yes, I can't be sure of that either fire stick out tongue

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hehe go yerss


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as I told backfire even that is not certain


I disagree, biological death is certain. Now, weather you believe in some kind of religion suggesting that there is life after 'death', that's another thing, which we can't discuss here.


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well let's give you what I give BF

what if one immortal person gets sent of to another dimension in which time does not exist, and he just floats around in the big white void?

now if you're answer is going to be immortal is impossible that is also not certain because you can NOT prodict the future


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Originally posted by Fire
well let's give you what I give BF

what if one immortal person gets sent of to another dimension in which time does not exist, and he just floats around in the big white void?

now if you're answer is going to be immortal is impossible that is also not certain because you can NOT prodict the future


If time does not exist, this man would have no heart-beat, no pulse, and no brain activity. But every standard I can think of, he would be dead.


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quote:
Originally posted by Fire
well let's give you what I give BF

what if one immortal person gets sent of to another dimension in which time does not exist, and he just floats around in the big white void?

now if you're answer is going to be immortal is impossible that is also not certain because you can NOT prodict the future


Well then that depends on your personal beliefs. I'm pretty sure immortality doesn't exist, but yeah, I know, I can't be sure.

So, I'll just point out what I said: biological death IS certain, simply because your heart stops functioning... no-one can deny that. What happens AFTER that... that's something I won't bother saying what I think about big grin


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And whoever said that there are no certainties in the world never studied mathematics. There are a lot of certainties there. For instance: No matter what prime number you name, it will be possible to name a higher prime number.


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If time does not exist, this man would have no heart-beat, no pulse, and no brain activity. But every standard I can think of, he would be dead.

you've never been in that void so you don't know


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And whoever said that there are no certainties in the world never studied mathematics. There are a lot of certainties there. For instance: No matter what prime number you name, it will be possible to name a higher prime number.

good one, didnt think of that one myself

but I've never found the end, maybe there is none but maybe there is


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numbers are endless


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It is certain that I will have another beer in the next half an hour!


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until proven otherwise evy


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you've never been in that void so you don't know


Yes, I do. If something moves, it must have a defined speed, which must be a real number. It has to, because since speed is defined as s=d/t, we can define distance as d=st, and if speed is 0, no distance has been traversed (d=0). Since distance and time must be real numbers, speed is also real.

Let's define the distance your chest moves when you breath x. Speed, as has already been stated, is defined as (distance moves)/(amount of time taken to move). Since no time is passing (time can't pass, since there isn't any), the denomonater is 0. Since x/0 is not a real number, there is no speed and hence no movement and hence no breathe.

Through this same process, it can be demonstrated that there is no heart-beat or brain activity.


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oh nonono, that CANNOT be proven otherwise, fire stick out tongue
you have 1, 2, 3, 4, .... and if you continue putting numbers in line, you'll never ever stop... it's certain stick out tongue


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it is not because those laws apply here that they will apply in another dimension gregory


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Yes, I do. If something moves, it must have a defined speed, which must be a real number. It has to, because since speed is defined as s=d/t, we can define distance as d=st, and if speed is 0, no distance has been traversed (d=0). Since distance and time must be real numbers, speed is also real.

Let's define the distance your chest moves when you breath x. Speed, as has already been stated, is defined as (distance moves)/(amount of time taken to move). Since no time is passing (time can't pass, since there isn't any), the denomonater is 0. Since x/0 is not a real number, there is no speed and hence no movement and hence no breathe.

Through this same process, it can be demonstrated that there is no heart-beat or brain activity.


well put thumb up
x/0 points to infinity yes which is a 'number' that cannot exist erm


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good one, didnt think of that one myself

but I've never found the end, maybe there is none but maybe there is


Wrong; it was proven that there is no last prime long before the birth of Christ (Euclid did it, if you want to look it up).


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oh nonono, that CANNOT be proven otherwise, fire stick out tongue
you have 1, 2, 3, 4, .... and if you continue putting numbers in line, you'll never ever stop... it's certain stick out tongue


well evy I know it sounds highly unlikely but you never know someone might find the end


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Gregory I really dont think you are getting my point but I am too tired to explain it over and over so I'll leave it at that


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