I couldn't wait to get out of that movie..I couldn't stand it. the only redeeming things about the movie is actors played their parts well and brad and eric were pretty hot. what good is good acting if they have a crumby script and have to use brad pitt's beauty to take up half the movie..every 5 seconds their was a close up of his face.
(This review sounds like Samas-adian but he's right!)
just awful. 2 out of 5 stars for me. one for pretty boys acting well and the other for a couple of descent fight scenes.
so all I actually got out of that review was the actors did good, and the scipt was crumby although i must admit i dont know what "crumby" is... but for it being so horrible and you wanted to leave so badly, poor writing hardly seems worth of all that.. and I must ask why didnt you just leave? If your gonna give a negative review of something it helps others if you give some reasons with some support behind them
I couldn't leave after I spent 8 bucks. I at least gave it more of chance than I did LXG which I did leave.
actually it's spelled both ways and means~miserable,filthy and cheap ,worthless
okay here is why it was crumby [SPOILER - highlight to read]: they cut up Homer's Iliad added bits took out the gods and relied on cheap shots of naked cuties to make up for lack of dialog (there should have been more between Paris and Hector) the fighting was mediocre and the costumes with the exception of Pitt's sucked. but I'm not going to cut down the actors them selves because they did a fine job for what they had to work with( though Pitt's performance wasn't fight club good)
Sean Bean who played Odysseus and Peter O'Toole who played Priam was excellent...maybe if the movie was shorter I wouldn't feel this way
And the extreme use of facial close ups. And maybe because they're are a few scenes that are so ridiculous its not even funny.
Like When Achilles cousin got killed by Hector. Why did everybody stop fighting and watch like it was a brawl from a high school dance. Also, when Hector fights Achilles. They must have been in box seats to have the view of action.
Between all of that, they're is about 10 to 15 close up shots of all the spectators ohhhhing and ahhhhhing. It would of been funny if they have a guy selling cotten candy
Last edited by Smasandian on May 17th, 2004 at 03:04 AM
the Homer's Iliad i dont see as a valid complaignt the movie is not telling the story of the Iliad, are you even aware the Iliad ends at Hectors funeral? This story can and has been told many different ways and it will continue to be.. I can understand if you just dont like it, but dont tell people it sucks because its not the Iliad.. You may not like how they borrowed some thigns and changed others, and they did use gods if you payed attention.. if people get off their high history horse (most of them dont even know their history correctly) and just look at the movie I think youll find as a movie and not a documentary or a remake of the Iliad which it claims to be niether it is very good
But I for one dont give a rats ass if it was or was not a true seeing of the Iliad. I cant speak for BKK, but from her post i saw that she didnt like it for other reasons, not because it was a true story of the Iliad.
Im looking from a movie stand point and i hated it. I also hated the whole story in the movie also.
What the hel!? You guys are compelte idiots. This movie was on the greatest ever, and if I get cahstised for believing that you guys have no taste ('cept bkk) then so be it, for gods sakes you guys shiulodl be ashamed of yourselves. This movie deserves 100% or 5 out of 5 or 10 out of ten or however u rate it.
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From Movies.com, only 4 sources out of 15 have positive reviews. 4 reviews were a mixed result while 7 sources were negative.
In Rotten Tomatoes, it has the negative view of Rotton.
A movie with this much negativity is surely not the greatest movie ever. Not even close to becoming great for movies in 2004.
Troy was the big budget film I was most looking forward to this summer, and it lived up to my expectations. If you're not familiar with the basic premise of the film, then I guess I'd wonder how that's possible, but anyway, it's basically about Paris, a prince of Troy, who steals Helen away from her husband, Menalous, who goes to his brother to help him get her back. So for selfish reasons, his brother, Agememnon, agrees to wage war against Troy, in hopes of taking the city down.
Troy took a while to get going, but once it got going, it didn't really stop. The film definitely didn't seem like it was two and a half hours. It went by incredibly quick.
The acting is overall, pretty strong. They're are some huge names in this film, and it turns out, the most well known actors appearing in the film can't even compare to the others. Eric Bana was just awesome as Hector, the second prince of Troy. He was just perfect. I didn't like him as The Hulk at all, and I wasn't expecting to like him here either. He's always seemed to just have a bland sound and looks, but I didn't notice them too much here. And then there is the great Peter O'Toole who really shines here as Priam, king of Troy. Brian Cox, one of the most underappreciated actors working today, was great. Sean Bean was good. Diane Kruger, as Helen, is beautiful. So that leaves the two weakest links: Orlando Bloom, and Brad Pitt. Pitt wasn't bad, just wasn't that great, and demanding as he should have been. Achilles is this guy that people are scared of who just does what he wants, and I just wasn't feeling it. Orlando Bloom got laughed at a lot. Mostly for bad lines, and because he just looks dumb, in all honesty.
The costumes of the warriors were great, but when the wealthy were casually dress, they looked really stupid. I can't imagine anyone actually wearing something like that. The guys wore bright clothing where the shirts went half-way down their chests. It was just kind of distracting. The cinematography is great. The war looked like a war. Details carefully placed within the frames, and huge sets, and long takes are always great.
There is one scene, the battle between Hector and Achilles that is just an awesome scene. One of my favorite fight scenes for sure. People keep comparing the score to Gladiator, but worse. I liked the score. It fit very well.
While I've never read The Iliad, I've always enjoyed the story of Troy, and the Trojan Horse. Learning about ancient Greece and Rome, and all that has always been interesting. So, it's interesting here. Wolfgang Peterson has crafted a very fine film, that could have been much better with stronger writing, mostly in dialogue, and maybe not casting such recognizable people.
is this directed at my post? I had plenty of reasons I didn't like the movie not just they butchered the characters from the iliad.
of coarse I know Iliad ends at hectors funeral.it was the first book of our book of the month (though I didn't read it on time with the gang I finally bought it)I'm not the one claiming it's based on the book,the film makers said it was loosely based on the book.so of coarse thats what I expected.
that claim is a travesty.it would be like the makers of The Poseidon Adventure claiming it was loosely based on the story of the sinking of titanic,just because it had a big ship.
you seen a god? I didn't. I heard them talk about them sure,but they didn't produce one. I read a interview with the director and he said he didn't want to put gods in the movie because he didn't want another 'Clash of the titans' I must say I was more entertained by that movie than troy.
I don't know why you or anyone else is so quick to defend a negative review unless you your self made the flick,it's just my opinion.
Last edited by BadKitty on May 17th, 2004 at 08:11 AM
Every screen version of a literary story is a compromise, and at the same time, a separate work which should be criticized on its own merits. But some compromises are harder to accept than others. If Tolkien’ s Lord Of The Rings deserved a nine hour trilogy, then this is certainly applyable for the story of the Trojan War, as it has come down to us by great poets/writers like Homer and Virgil.
Petersen directs his battles and duels in an energetic way and the fast Achilles and the noble Hector are powerfully embodied by Brad Pitt and Eric Bana. But it’ s frustrating to see how the movie fails in other aspects where, at some points, the nails are hit on the head. Petersen had to make certain choices to tell a nice well-rounded story, completely with romantic interludes and dramatical pay-offs. Those choices result in catching a glimpse of the mythical blaze that surrounds this epic, but never fully is exposed to it.
The plot of the movie makes clear that there loosely has been dealt with the information from the Iliad and other sources. The Greek gods play no part at all. Where they stand by or work against the different heroes in the Iliad, throw themselves into the fray and even get injured, we notice nothing from their influence in this movie. Troy wants, following movies like Braveheart and Gladiator, maintain a certain realism.
Troy will appeal the best to the ones who are, for the first, introduced to the battle for Troy and the mythical heroes who shine there. If you do know the stories, like some of us do, it is not that easy to overcome certain changes. The problem is not as much that all of a sudden, different characters live or die. Troy is loosely based on Homer and, as said, should be criticized on its own merits. The problem particularly is that the dramas which are eventually shown do not live up to their promise.
Together, Orlando Bloom and Diane Kruger aren' t able to go beyond the matter. Luckily, the latter does count for several supporting roles among which Brian Cox, Brendan Gleeson, Sean Bean and the fossil Peter O'Toole. It' s a pity that the visual impact of Troy must compensate a shaky content.
A spectacle movie of $ 200,000,000 is above all a commercial undertaking
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May 16th, 2004 10:42 PM
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