If u take into consideration the 2nd BROLLY movie, where brolly must take on Gohan, then at this point Gohan is a ssj2(because it is after the cell saga).Even at ssj2 Gohan couldnt beat Brolly on his own...and got woooopED....so therefore Brolly must be Stronger than a SSJ2?
Yes that is very true mate,I think the brolly 2 Movie was at the time before the World Torament Saga, which just just before Buu, SO Brolly must have been Stronger than a SSJ2 in the normal state
Oh my Fu*cking GOD, how stupid is this Kid, admin if u there please kick him because of his stupid posts......
FS, is the second brolly movie gohan went SSJ2 and he still couldnt beat Brolly in his normal state and when he went SSJ also, they had no chance againts Brolly. And they why do u go and say a Dumb thin like that? Cell could hot brolly once and kill him, fs grow up
His Kid really hasnt seen any of the movies, Im getting tired of this
Wrong. He did NOT go SSJ2 in the movie. The hair does spike up nearly as much. You can tell the difference between the two because of how he transforms in the World Tournament, and he's DEFINITELY an SSJ. It's a plothole that he DIDN'T go SSJ2, but seeing as Brolly was shown to be quite capable of beating SSJ's, that part DOES make sense. What doesn't make sense is that Gohan and Goten combined could both beat Brolly, which doesn't make any sense at all, but that is another plot hole of the movie that has to be accepted.
In the first movie, Brolly doesn't represent Cell, as so many people think. The movies do not take place in the same universe as the DBZ anime we all know of, which explains why so many things are parallel, but couldn't actually happen during DBZ(Ex. Raditz-Garlic Jr(The Garlic Jr. Saga in DBZ was FILLER), Nappa + Vegeta-Turles, Bojack-Cell, etc). Brolly represents Androids 17 + 18. Remember when Android 18 demolished SSJ Vegeta and SSJ Mirai Trunks? It's pretty much the same case as with Brolly, except he does it to 4 SSJs, which could happen in exactly the same manner if both 17 and 18 fought SSJ Vegeta, SSJ Trunks, SSJ Goku, and SSJ Gohan.
Now, Vegeta and Trunks were NOT USSJ when fighting Brolly the first time. They had no reason to train, because the Androids never existed, nor did Cell(If either of them did, would Goku and Chichi, and hundreds of other parents be wasting their time trying to get their kids into a prestigious school? I think not.) Trunks being there, of course, is merely to parallel the Android Saga. It's never explained why he's there, when it's so obvious that there's no real reason for him to be there since both the Androids and Cell never showed up. Another thing is that Goku and Gohan aren't both Super Saiyans at all times, which means that they aren't FPSSJs, which coupled with the facts above, means it could not have taken place in the 10 days. Now, you be wondering why Gohan is SSJ if that's true. Well, think of it this way: Since it takes place in an alternate universe, and there was no Cell/Android threat, wouldn't Goku at least try to spend the time to teach Gohan SSJ? I mean, he is his son, and evidently he already knows that a Half Saiyan can go SSJ, which suggests that he did indeed teach Gohan to become SSJ in that universe.
Seeing as the Androids nor Cell exist, none of the Saiyans really have any reason to train *really hard*, in comparison to their training whenever there is peace time, which means that they would be at, or below their Android Saga strength. Therefore, they wouldn't be NEARLY strong enough to take on Androids. Cell is completely out of the question, even in his Imperfect Form. And because Brolly represents the Androids, their beating from him makes perfect sense. The thing that doesn't make sense is how Goku could *suddenly* come up with enough strength to beat him, even with the energy of a few *weakened* SSJs, and Piccolo. That's one big plothole right there.
Now, as for the second movie, the fact that Brolly could beat Gohan's SSJ doesn't mean all that much. At that point, Goku's dead(from something...), and Gohan hasn't done much of ANY training, as with the 7 years of peace after the Cell saga. So if anything, it's weaker than his SSJ when fighting Brolly the first time. Goten is only a bit below at the time(shown when Goten fights Gohan, and Gohan is forced to fly away from Goten, as he's having a hard time fighting him when their both SSJ, suggesting that Goten *could* be close to his strength in SSJ at the time). Again, the plothole from this movie is how *TWO* SSJs could beat him, when four couldn't(even though one who got mysteriously super energized could do it at the same time...Damn plot holes).
In his last movie, he get's beaten by water. The wuss.
Cizal im getting everything thats your saying, But from the TV time line didnt that look so much like What happened before the world tornament Saga? Goku not being there ect ? Videl under Gohans Love. Afew things tho what did confuse me like why didnt he go SSJ2 ?
And we know Brollys power Didnt really increase after the First Film because of What Gohan said when he first sensed him. Im sure there has to be some connection because of the release dates of the movies when they first came out in japan. Because as the second Brolly film came out it was at the time as they were first showing The Episodes before the Tornament Saga. They did that for all the Movies, So they first showed DBZmovie1, when they first aired the Dragonball Saga. So even if its not conencted, They might of tryed.
And In the First Brolly movie, Trunks was there why was he there if Cell wasnt around?
I think Brolly was Very Strong, Much stronger than a USSJ but abit less than a SSJ2, im not sure. Remember when he got trapped in the lava? he totaly went inside it, any normal sayian would have died, but he came out fine
Like I said, it's essentially an alternate universe. It may take some things from the anime, but that's only because Toei is REALLY unimaginative(Ex. Bebi: Regenerating enemy AGAIN...Super 17: Do I REALLY need to say anything?), and people need to be familiar with it. Gohan not going SSJ2 was A) a Plothole(most likely choice), or B) He was overconfident.
They did try to make it happen at the same time, which is why I mentioned the alternate universe thing, with Raditz=Garlic Jr from Dead Zone, Brolly=Androids 18+17, 2nd iteration=something random to make it coincide with the World Tournament. They want to try and have it coincide with events in the anime, but there's no REAL way that they can fit in the anime timeline.
The same reason he was there in Movie 9, where Gohan first goes SSJ2(in the movie timeline). Trunks was there in the anime when they fought the Androids, therefore he was in when they fought Brolly. Trunks was there in the anime when they fought Cell, therefore he was there when they fought Bojack. Speaking of that, it makes less sense for Trunks to be in Movie 9 than in Movie 8. I mean, there's just a random Tournament that takes place in Movie 9, and for some inane reason(to coincide with the anime, of course), Trunks is there, when he REALLY has no business being there at ALL.
Well, if you're going to go by the Toei stuff, Goku also went into lava when he FIRST turned SSJ.
Now, Brolly wasn't stronger than an USSJ. OMG, blasphemy, right? Well, look at it from the alternate universe thing again. He coincided with the Androids, who had more than enough power to demolish the normal SSJs. Then look at Vegeta in USSJ, who is SLAUGHTERING Semi-Perfect Cell, who was not only stronger after he absorbed the humans, but also absorbed of the said Androids. And you must also remember that even USSJ Vegeta could rip off half of PERFECT Cell's chest area with his Final Flash. Now, following said alternate universe logic, Brolly is as strong as the Androids combined, who are much weaker than Semi-Perfect Cell.
Brolly would be destroyed by an USSJ. Though he could probably put up a semi-decent fight if it was against Goku.
we all know that brolly is the strongest becouse his power level gets stronger everytime goku touches him, only reason goku beat him is becouse all of the z warriors gave there power to him, after he kick all there ass*s at the same time maxed ssj. if u watched the japanese movies ull understand more then being a *****n clueless retard sayin sh*t tottaly opposite, no one can beat brolly. his power level is 10,00 when he was born and grows everytime he fights goku, and goku is the strongest z fighter ? even f brolly went to GT or AF hed still be the strongest no question asked. only way brolly can be beaten is by gogeta,vegetto ss4 b\c in AF brolly can go SS4. once u newbs know the story dont post bullsh*t
Brolly does not go ssj or ssj2 or even uss he goes however lss2 which pwns all so stfu u god dam newbs suck my dick im the creator of mother ****ing dbz so stfu o and why trunks is there is b/c he wanted to see vegeta u ****ing noobs his dad is dead in his time line god dam boons
as u all know it dont really matter if anyones ssj1 or ssj2 brolly is the legendary super saiyan and the ****ing bullshit with the ssj1 2 and 3 has nothingto do with it ive watched videos of brolly kicking goku ssj3's ass up and down the god damn screen. brlly is always the strongest person in dbz if u havnt noticed theyve never killed him only bought time to run brolly is just as strong as goku or vegeta ssj3-4 when hes ulss2 its the fact that hes that stage.
lss2 is not his max he finds out in af that he can go up to ulss4 witch makes his power level like 10000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000
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the ssj1 2 and 3 has nothingto do with it ive watched videos of brolly kicking goku ssj3's ass up and down the god damn screen. brlly is always the strongest person in dbz if u havnt noticed theyve never killed him only bought time to run brolly is just as strong as goku or vegeta ssj3-4 when hes ulss2 its the fact that hes that stage.
The English versions HAVE the subbed versions, uncut, if you haven't noticed. They're EXACTLY the same as the original, and the animation is EXACTLY the same, just like with EVERY OTHER thing that FUNi brings over here. You're just wrong.
Legendary Super Saiyan:
This form is very similar to Super Saiyan 3rd Grade (Ultra Super Saiyan), but is not the same. In this form Broly's muscle mass increases greatly, but he does not suffer any loss of speed. This form is actually closer to Super Saiyan 2, but is not that either due to the muscle increase.
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