it's people like you that give genuine Emotional Hardcore (im going to use the full name, not the short-hand 'emo' from now one because obviously people are too stupid to retain that information for more than a few posts.) a band name, you try defend it when you actually fight yourself into their hands because you don't know what you're talking about
yea sure, Emotional Hardcore happened because bands enfused poetic introspective lyrics and more melodic musicianship into Hardcore... but that doesn't mean they ****ing whinged etc. if any of you actually listened to the bands that are genuinely Emotional Hardcore you'd realise how stupid you all sound.
Fugazi and Jawbreaker are both Punk bands, but theyre also both Emotional Hardcore Bands (shorted to emo-core) - and if any of you actually listened to either of them, i assure you you'll be pleasently surprised.
Also, Hardcore Emo and true Screamo are heavier and louder and more chaotic than anything in the rest of the Punk Genre, listen to Angel Hair, Swing Kids (the Locusts old band) and even stuff like Saetia and Orchid and you'll realise how stupid you sound for calling all 'emo kids' whiney little kids who hate their parents.
"I am the horizon. I have dreamed of tracing rings around this world. My arms are stretched to forever. My fingers shake with the fear of control. The fear I know you all know so well. We all lay claim to our destinies. Yet we all rise and fall with the current." - Saetia - Postlapsaria
note the word parents, cry and any other hugely whinging words are distinctly absent.
learn about music before you slate it, or you just come away looking like a bunch of dumbarses
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Screamo imo is just another word for Hardcore Emo although officially there are meant to be subtle differences.... and no the blood brothers aren't screamo.
Screamo does exist though, and i guess it is different to Hardcore Emo, but i lump em together because the differences are soo subtle it's a pointless seperation.
listen to Orchid, Saetia, Neil Perry, Joshua fit for battle and City of Caterpillar - that's Screamo.
listen to Swing Kids, Angel Hair, Heroin, Honeywell and Antioch Arrow - that's Hardcore Emo
Alexisonfire, Thrice, Finch, MCR, Funeral for a Friend etc - that's neither
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I have heard those bands save for a couple. I don't particularly like them but to me (Save for Finch's most recent album, which I like), although they are different. I would consider them just different types of bands under the same genre. EG: Opeth, Shadows Fall and Mastodon all being metal and all being different.
There's noticeable difference between Opeth and Metallica though. Me calling them both metal isn't removing distinction from them. If anything it's allowing them to retain it without specifying their sound and confining it to a smaller genre.
yea, but with Emo being so vilified, it's almost like a defence mechanism to split it up and flood it with subgenres and styles... and even regional styles. (aka DC-Hardcore etc).
i dont mind subgenres, it doesnt bother me that much... i like to say i listen to Screamo rather than saying i listen to Emo, because for one.. i don't want to have people saying 'oooohhh, lyk Fall Out Boy11?!'
now all i have to put up with is 'oh like Thrice?'
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i guess, but it's less hassle because that reply usually brings up the whole what's emo argument, and this thread has me dealing with more than enough ill-informed morons than i need
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Well,I never really listened to Emo.The only Emo bands I know are MCR and such,which are probably not real Emo.Might be because the Emo scene isn't really big where I come from.
Therein lies the problem with feeling you have to educate morons. If I were in your position I wouldn't bother defining it. I prefer not to waste my time on those kind of people in person.
nope, the message - as true in this quoted post as in the last - is that you don't have a ****ing clue what you're talking about. Or that you do know how wrong you are, but ignore it purely so you can have something to blindly insult even after you've been proved wrong time and time again
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Well I'm not cool, never have been and never made any claim that I was.
Its just good fun to wind you up.
"Emo" has no artistic merit at all, not anymore. All these sycophantic "Emo" 15 year olds ( or people who are mentally and emotionally still 15 years old)think its really intellectual and meaningful, that the lyrics are powerful poetry.They are not and the music is meaningless.There are hundreds of homogenised and interchangeable "emo" bands all playing the same song. Its the musical equivalent of an episode of Dawsons Creek.
The name "Emo" has been around since the early 90's and was a label attached to bands like Rites of Spring and Sunny Day Real Estate and later bands like Garrison. These bands had some degree of originality, fire and meaning, but what is recognised as "Emo" today is a bucket of piss and tears.
"Emo" my friends,is the "Hair-Metal" and the "Power Ballads" of your generation.