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emo is just a shortened word for = emotional.
emotionally depressed really explains it.
right now, emo is basically what people try to look like.
but they don't realize that a white studded belt & that crap is just materialistic.
emo is not just the way you act, its also the music this " emo " person listens to.
fall out boy is emo except now its under the mainstream infliction now.
note how fall out boy have been a band for like is it 5 years? well since they made their first album & mtv put them up for a " new artist of the year " award.
they are no longer considered much of an emo band, more of a simple plan type band now..
people tend to think its boys who have long hair, cut, cry, wear tight pants & shirts. have messenger bags with pins & wear dark colors.
but there are also girls who do the same.
there's a difference between the real emo & the poser emo.
real emo is based on their emotions & music.
& poser emo is based on mainstream music & the appearance.
you can dress the " emo " part & act emo & not be an emo poser but it depends if your doing for the attention or not.
well; i hope i somewhat help & its stupid to fight over an asked definition of emo.


it's people like you that give genuine Emotional Hardcore (im going to use the full name, not the short-hand 'emo' from now one because obviously people are too stupid to retain that information for more than a few posts.) a band name, you try defend it when you actually fight yourself into their hands because you don't know what you're talking about

yea sure, Emotional Hardcore happened because bands enfused poetic introspective lyrics and more melodic musicianship into Hardcore... but that doesn't mean they ****ing whinged etc. if any of you actually listened to the bands that are genuinely Emotional Hardcore you'd realise how stupid you all sound.

Fugazi and Jawbreaker are both Punk bands, but theyre also both Emotional Hardcore Bands (shorted to emo-core) - and if any of you actually listened to either of them, i assure you you'll be pleasently surprised.

Also, Hardcore Emo and true Screamo are heavier and louder and more chaotic than anything in the rest of the Punk Genre, listen to Angel Hair, Swing Kids (the Locusts old band) and even stuff like Saetia and Orchid and you'll realise how stupid you sound for calling all 'emo kids' whiney little kids who hate their parents.

"I am the horizon. I have dreamed of tracing rings around this world. My arms are stretched to forever. My fingers shake with the fear of control. The fear I know you all know so well. We all lay claim to our destinies. Yet we all rise and fall with the current." - Saetia - Postlapsaria

note the word parents, cry and any other hugely whinging words are distinctly absent.

learn about music before you slate it, or you just come away looking like a bunch of dumbarses


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Screamo doesn't actually exist to me. I just consider whatever it is to be a heavier version of whatever it's derived from.

People have all too often labelled The Blood Brothers as screamo or emo. I consider them neither.

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Screamo doesn't actually exist to me. I just consider whatever it is to be a heavier version of whatever it's derived from.

People have all too often labelled The Blood Brothers as screamo or emo. I consider them neither.

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Screamo imo is just another word for Hardcore Emo although officially there are meant to be subtle differences.... and no the blood brothers aren't screamo.

Screamo does exist though, and i guess it is different to Hardcore Emo, but i lump em together because the differences are soo subtle it's a pointless seperation.

listen to Orchid, Saetia, Neil Perry, Joshua fit for battle and City of Caterpillar - that's Screamo.

listen to Swing Kids, Angel Hair, Heroin, Honeywell and Antioch Arrow - that's Hardcore Emo

Alexisonfire, Thrice, Finch, MCR, Funeral for a Friend etc - that's neither


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Screamo imo is just another word for Hardcore Emo although officially there are meant to be subtle differences.... and no the blood brothers aren't screamo.

Screamo does exist though, and i guess it is different to Hardcore Emo, but i lump em together because the differences are soo subtle it's a pointless seperation.

listen to Orchid, Saetia, Neil Perry, Joshua fit for battle and City of Caterpillar - that's Screamo.

listen to Swing Kids, Angel Hair, Heroin, Honeywell and Antioch Arrow - that's Hardcore Emo

Alexisonfire, Thrice, Finch, MCR, Funeral for a Friend etc - that's neither


I have heard those bands save for a couple. I don't particularly like them but to me (Save for Finch's most recent album, which I like), although they are different. I would consider them just different types of bands under the same genre. EG: Opeth, Shadows Fall and Mastodon all being metal and all being different.

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I have heard those bands save for a couple. I don't particularly like them but to me (Save for Finch's most recent album, which I like), although they are different. I would consider them just different types of bands under the same genre. EG: Opeth, Shadows Fall and Mastodon all being metal and all being different.

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yea, which is why i don't really ever bother making the distinction between the two types, and just lump them under Screamo, which is easier to type.

however there are noticable difference between like Orchid and Jawbreaker for instance. so need to seperate them into a subgenre imo


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There's noticeable difference between Opeth and Metallica though. Me calling them both metal isn't removing distinction from them. If anything it's allowing them to retain it without specifying their sound and confining it to a smaller genre.

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There's noticeable difference between Opeth and Metallica though. Me calling them both metal isn't removing distinction from them. If anything it's allowing them to retain it without specifying their sound and confining it to a smaller genre.

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yea, but with Emo being so vilified, it's almost like a defence mechanism to split it up and flood it with subgenres and styles... and even regional styles. (aka DC-Hardcore etc).

i dont mind subgenres, it doesnt bother me that much... i like to say i listen to Screamo rather than saying i listen to Emo, because for one.. i don't want to have people saying 'oooohhh, lyk Fall Out Boy11?!'

now all i have to put up with is 'oh like Thrice?'


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That's exactly why shit like that exists. Because people care too much what others think.

If it's Emo you listen to, then say it. If someone says "Like Fall Out Boy?" You say "No, they're not emo." I don't see the problem.

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That's exactly why shit like that exists. Because people care too much what others think.

If it's Emo you listen to, then say it. If someone says "Like Fall Out Boy?" You say "No, they're not emo." I don't see the problem.

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i guess, but it's less hassle because that reply usually brings up the whole what's emo argument, and this thread has me dealing with more than enough ill-informed morons than i need


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Well,I never really listened to Emo.The only Emo bands I know are MCR and such,which are probably not real Emo.Might be because the Emo scene isn't really big where I come from.


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MCR aren't emo man, jeez.

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i guess, but it's less hassle because that reply usually brings up the whole what's emo argument, and this thread has me dealing with more than enough ill-informed morons than i need


Therein lies the problem with feeling you have to educate morons. If I were in your position I wouldn't bother defining it. I prefer not to waste my time on those kind of people in person.

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emos rock

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you suck at life, let alone defining Emo



What? laughing


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What? laughing


i thought the message was pretty clear haha.. cool


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i thought the message was pretty clear haha.. cool



What? the message that you're a self - hating emo bedwetter


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What? the message that you're a self - hating emo bedwetter


nope, the message - as true in this quoted post as in the last - is that you don't have a ****ing clue what you're talking about. Or that you do know how wrong you are, but ignore it purely so you can have something to blindly insult even after you've been proved wrong time and time again


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MCR aren't emo man, jeez.

That's why i said,that they probably aren't real emo men,jeez...
Anycrap,can anyone give me the names of some real emo bands then?I'm eager to learn smart


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That's why i said,that they probably aren't real emo men,jeez...
Anycrap,can anyone give me the names of some real emo bands then?I'm eager to learn smart


the thread is litered with links... just quickly browse


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What? the message that you're a self - hating emo bedwetter


People who demean "emo" whilst completely getting it wrong anyway just end up looking dumb. Not cool.

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People who demean "emo" whilst completely getting it wrong anyway just end up looking dumb. Not cool.

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Well I'm not cool, never have been and never made any claim that I was.

Its just good fun to wind you up.

"Emo" has no artistic merit at all, not anymore. All these sycophantic "Emo" 15 year olds ( or people who are mentally and emotionally still 15 years old)think its really intellectual and meaningful, that the lyrics are powerful poetry.They are not and the music is meaningless.There are hundreds of homogenised and interchangeable "emo" bands all playing the same song. Its the musical equivalent of an episode of Dawsons Creek.

The name "Emo" has been around since the early 90's and was a label attached to bands like Rites of Spring and Sunny Day Real Estate and later bands like Garrison. These bands had some degree of originality, fire and meaning, but what is recognised as "Emo" today is a bucket of piss and tears.

"Emo" my friends,is the "Hair-Metal" and the "Power Ballads" of your generation.


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