The Spirit Bomb only works on evil people. The pure hearted can rebound it as Gohan proved. So the question is does Supes have evil in his heart and would he be willing to wait the time it takes to build the bombs powers
I don't even think that Goku could get enough Zenkais to get as strong as Supes...It would take FAR too long. Supes would be tired of "fighting" Goku by then.
You mean that Goku would get his ass beaten by the both of them, regardless of what form he took, right? I mean, just read the post above mine, and it'll be obvious that Goku stands no chance whatsoever.
All of you people who think Goku could beat Superman are sadly mistaken. These people probably havnt read a single superman comic in their life and probably are basing this fight on the superman from the shitty cartoons or the adventures of superman.
I love DBZ as much as the next guy but im sorry Goku just dont stand a chance. I mean atleast read the first post in this thread it gives all u need for Superman to beat Goku. If ur not convinced of pre-crisis or post-crisis for that matter superman beating goku read any DC 1Million issue and ull see how strong superman prime is, never mind superman of today.
And for god sake SSJ4? SSJ4 aint even as strong as SSJ2. I have seen no extraordinary feets by goku or vegeta when SSJ4. The only cool thing ive seen goku do when SSJ4 was make a kamehamha in both hands and combine them, wich still sucked. He has never flown realy fast, done anything wich shows he's stronger than ever, nothing, SSJ4 is the weakest of all SSJ stages. Thats the writers faults though. SSJ4 should have been god like but thanks to those stupid fuks who wanted to make money, he isnt.
It is Also stated by Goku to Trunks that Instant Transmission lets him move at 100,000mps wich is the fastest form of moving in DB but that speed comes no where near the speed of light.
Last edited by Magee on Jun 13th, 2004 at 12:28 PM
although they do give a speed on instant transmission it can not be correct. goku goes to namek several times using this move and lord knows how far that is. it takes 8 minutes for the suns rays to reach earth at the speed of light. so it was either crappy dubbing or crappy writing. ss2 is probaly the best form of super saiyan being that your power doesnt go out like 3 does. ss4 should not count being that akira toriyama did not create that form. it is weird though they say radditz is faster than the speed of light but than later they give a speed for instant transmission. so no real speed is ever known. funimation is only redoing the episode because many were fused togther. radditz speed is given when pioneer was in control and there far more respectable than funimation in my book.
Well i think its a case of bad writting and bad dubbing the writers contradict them selves so many times Yes i agree SSJ4 should not count, anything in GT shouldnt count because Akira didnt create it and well it sucked. Radditz dodged piccolos attack wich moved at the speed of light supposedly but it still hit him on the shoulder, this still doent mean he can move at the speed of light though.
Well an opinion is an opinion, so I won't dispute it. But still I suppose it really depends on the Superman we're using. He could probably beat the currant one but earlier versions in my personal opinion would take the match.
Goku has a small chance with regular Superman(very small), but Red/Blue can become intangable, Goku can throw all kinds of punches and kicks and he'd just be hitting air.
Just forget about Superman Prime, he'd literally turn Goku inside out, thats not even a fair match.
Err do u mean that crappy cartoon or do u mean the superman in the JLA comics? Because the superman in the comics is fully capable of beating Goku. He has been the superman ive been refering to lol.
I was talking about the cartoon Supes, the one most people here would know about better than the others...
Bardock, Supes has been said to lift at least 40 billion tons. FAR stronger than Goku is. Don't be ignorant to EVERYthing that has already been said in this topic.