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The Balance of the Force
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Darth Daft
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Yes and by sacrificing his life to save Luke.


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to bring balance to the force one must embrace the entire force, both light and dark side...i guess you all missed it in jedi when Luke strikes Vader out of ANGER when Vader threatens to turn Leia...Luke is the first jedi to have balanced in himself the light and dark side..this really isnt that had to comprehend

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Wrong... Lucas has said lt many times: balance of the Force is when there is no dark side.

Can't believe we're still having this debate. Every once in a while people come back with a yin-yang concept of the balance of the Force. It doesn't work taht way... Lucas is boos and he says it's light only.


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OMG...this thread was 10 years old...I was only 12 when the last post was made up until today. lol


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laughing out loud

Who dug up this okld fossil then?


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Re: The Balance of the Force

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Originally posted by Nim Nom
What does that exactly mean? Does it mean that the Dark side should be equal to the Light side of the Force?
If not, how does killing all the Sith bring balance to the Force?
ok this is my first post and i want to do it with it i think the balance of the force is rubbish because in TPM they say they don't believe the sith still exist so.... at that time there was balance (in their minds) so why the hell would they believe in the prophecy and after TROTJ if u read stuff like star wars legacy there of coarse are more sith so no there is not balance of the force and if there is they must be billions of prophecy's of people that will kill the sith and besides there will always be more sith

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OMG... this has been talked to death for no reason at all. Lucas has explained this enough: balance=light side only. The end.


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Again I'm late, but here I am.

IMO balance very well means equal. It does everywhere else in life; why not the force. Let's not forget the part of the prophecy where they mention the "chosen one" being born of midichlorians, which (as much as I too love Luke) means he is not the chosen one.

To DarthGalbatorix: if QuiGon never pursued Anakin as the chosen one then there would be no Star Wars. Anakin wouldn't have met Padme, so no Luke or Leia....you get the picture. In life everything happens for a reason. But you had me thinking and I like that!

After Anakin balances the force, 2 Sith Lords (Darth Sidious + Darth Vader) = 2 Jedi Masters (Master Yoda + Master Obi Wan Kenobi); Luke then maintains the balance. Thank you johndillinger19 for explaining this. But in the books yes there were 2 young apprentices of Darth Vader; not considered Sith when Darth Sidious and Vader were still living, but after death we again have 2 Sith = 2 Jedi Twin Skywalkers.

Bottom line as long as there are Jedi there will be Sith simply because of HUMAN NATURE.

I would love to have your thoughts.

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Oh my. I just read this whole page and can't stop laughing laughing out loud


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I can't stop crying.

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Again I'm late, but here I am.

IMO balance very well means equal. It does everywhere else in life; why not the force. Let's not forget the part of the prophecy where they mention the "chosen one" being born of midichlorians, which (as much as I too love Luke) means he is not the chosen one.

To DarthGalbatorix: if QuiGon never pursued Anakin as the chosen one then there would be no Star Wars. Anakin wouldn't have met Padme, so no Luke or Leia....you get the picture. In life everything happens for a reason. But you had me thinking and I like that!

After Anakin balances the force, 2 Sith Lords (Darth Sidious + Darth Vader) = 2 Jedi Masters (Master Yoda + Master Obi Wan Kenobi); Luke then maintains the balance. Thank you johndillinger19 for explaining this. But in the books yes there were 2 young apprentices of Darth Vader; not considered Sith when Darth Sidious and Vader were still living, but after death we again have 2 Sith = 2 Jedi Twin Skywalkers.

Bottom line as long as there are Jedi there will be Sith simply because of HUMAN NATURE.

I would love to have your thoughts.


Balance=light side only. That's the only thought that counts.


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I can't stop crying.



Balance=light side only. That's the only thought that counts.


so if it's light side only (and i apoligize if this has been said before)
but what do they have in TPM as far as they know there are no sith, no darkside so wouldn't they have balance?


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so if it's light side only (and i apoligize if this has been said before)
but what do they have in TPM as far as they know there are no sith, no darkside so wouldn't they have balance?


Doesn't mean it would remain that way indefinetely.

The fact that the Sith were discovered to still be alive in that movie would give the prophecy more meaning.

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But OB1 already sensed it, something elusive.


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don't think of 'balance' as a scale. its 'balance' as in 'at an equilibrium'. in nature, oil spills dont account for some constant necessary yin/yang struggle. its just a big man-made mess and nothing more, which causes imbalance/death of ecosystems.


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Good one. And true.


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OMG... this has been talked to death for no reason at all. Lucas has explained this enough: balance=light side only. The end.


Well there is this argument: Death of the Author

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Well... that is true up to a point. But Lucas has always clearly explained what his balance was and how that was part of his narrative structure. And I do think there is a difference between a non-fictional world as backdrop and a purely fictional world. We are all part of the non-fictional world and we can study it from our own perspective. That is only possible in a much more limited way in a purely fictional world. On which we have to rely on its creator.

Plus I think it also depends to what extend an author of a purely fictional world has explained things. Where explanation is missing, imagination takes over. The Balance thing has been explained to death, so all you can do in that matter to disagree is say Lucas is wrong about his own creation.

And I didn't see Lucas in the list of authors there. wink


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Or does the bringing balance mean to be both light and dark in one, at the same time. so this is what Anakin did and the prophecy was misread?


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wrong


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Lucas explained it numerous times: the selfish approach of the Sith dirupts things, it therefore creates unbalance.... the selfless approach of the Jedi brings balance.


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