Very good match, but I think it would do better in the comic forum. more DareDevil fans there.
but I say.......hmmmm..................... Kraven dosent seem even remotely dumb enuf to try and get into a fist fight with DareDevil so If he hunted him down I think he could beat him. like you said, he cuaght Spiderman and let him live. If he wanted he could have killed him and probably a few other hero's if he had so desired. and lived.
Daredevil presents different challenges than Spiderman does, and that was an ooooold story arc. Curious how Kraven would do with today's Spidey - willing to bet he would be destroyed. His potions only gave him the "strength and speed of a savage beast," and NO beast that I know of can dodge bullets or press 10 tons (in other words, no clue how in the hell he "beat" Spiderman logically). I mean...Spiderman beat a herald of Galactus limp and lost to Kraven? Womp womp.
Daredevil from several years ago beat the bejesus out of Sabretooth who I think would carve Kraven up.
He technically didnt beat Spiderman, in the phsyical sense. like you said Kraven is as dangerous as a beast and shouldnt really be able to put up a decent fight becuase his hand to hand skill's are moderate at best.
what he does know tho is...well for lack of a better phrase know how to hunt, stalk, capture and so forth. he drugged Spiderman and buried him to let him know if Kraven wanted too, he could kill him then dressed up as Spidey and even went as far as caturing Vermin while dressed as Spidey.
I'd say Kraven is pretty underated, I used to think he was a throw away villain**kinda hard to think other wise considering he is dead**
If Kraven felt like hunting down DareDevil I would most certainly give the upperhand to Kraven.
but I suppose this is just a fight in wich that case DareDevil mops the floor with Kraven.In that case there wouldnt be a much of a fight, at all.
ah crap scrath that, I didnt really consider the fact that DareDevil IS nothing like Spiderman.
at first I was pretty sure Kraven could think up somthing......but the little incident with the Sinister 6 made me realize he has a BIG chance of fouling up.
Yeah, when Kraven drugged Spider-Man and buried him, Spider-Man was distracted and a pretty easy target. I think that Daredevil would take Kraven, especially since Kraven doesn't know what his powers are. If he hunted him, Daredevil would be able to hear/smell/sense him. Maybe if Kraven hunted him from really far away he'd have a chance, but since he doesn't know about Daredevil's enhanced senses, he'd probably underestimate him and stick closely to him.
From your words I have dedicted that Kraven is a sort of a predator or hunter. In the way u described, he actually lured spidey into a trap, and that alone gives him a + for the amazing effort.
Hunting down DD wouldn't be a problem, but what then? I don't think he can match DD's fighting abilities, so it wouldn't be much of a fight. If he tried to put hjim to sleep, well all I see is DD escaping each dart and kicking Kravens arse.
hahaha didn't in Ultimate Spider-man, Spidey whupped Kraven's ass easily? It was so funny...cuz Kraven built it up like he was going to win and the crowd supported him and all, and then Spidey just takes him out in 2 secs and calls him a phony.
I guess that's what the writers were aiming at ...to show Kraven was really just an upstart, even if it was an Ultimate stroryline and they revamped everything.
Maybe he comes back more powerful, I haven't read them all
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Let's look at some people that Daredevil was able to beat the living shit out of: Bullseye, Kingpin, Typhoid Mary, Ammo, Iron Fist, Deadpool, and Sabretooth. DD is probably the greatest Martial artist in tights, his senses and radar are much more accurate than spider-man's, and he's mentally fragile. when his loved ones are threatened, Daredevil's temper rivals wolverine's. if you honestly think that a guy who is impossible to sneak up on and who beat iron fist and nearly killed the kingpin with his bare hands would loose to Kraven, you're high
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OK--let me weigh in on the matter... I like Kraven as a character, even more than I like DD. But, under normal circumstances, if they clashed, I think DD would have a nice, new fur Kraven carpet laying out in front of his fireplace. DD beat Sabretooth!
Now, if Kraven manages the miraculous and somehow tricks him with a potion, dart, etc,..he'd had a very good fighting chance...and then there's all those nerve punches he knows.
Have any of you here READ Kraven's Last Hunt, it is considered by many (including me) the best Spidey story ever.
Spidey was wearing the Black suit, and Spidey taken by surprise because not only had Kraven trapped him (that happened before) but he pulled a gun while he was trapped, very unlike Kraven. With the gun (filled with potion to knock him out) he shot spidey at point blank... And went around AS spidey, just to prove himself.
When Spidey woke up, he found Kraven about to kill Jackal, and is about to fight him (or something like that) Kraven gets away.... And the deed is done, he finally beat spidey, so he killed himself.
Did Kraven ever come back, or did they clone him or a twin brother, or a son who looks exactly like him? Because he appeared in the 1998 series of Black Panther, issue 6 and some others in the Enemy of the State storyarc.
Maverick, DD is a master of nerve punches, and he did something that no other regular guy in marvel has done... SURVIVED 3 ENCOUNTERS WITH MEPHISTO!!!!! I think fighting of the Hand 30 at a time also counts for something considering that each ninja probably has nearly all of Kraven's skills, not counting Kirigi who is death itself.
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Jun 7th, 2004 07:14 PM
