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Is mathematics the universal language?
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Universal Language
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Victor Von Doom
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That only suggests a universal shared factor. It's not accessible to the average Joe Pinhcpenny.


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"universal shared factor" is the key phrase here.


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That does not equal a universal language, I do not understand DNA.


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DNA is the building blocks of life. Thus DNA must be in everything. Hence it can be intrepretated as a unverisal language broken down into its simplist components for those who can understand its meaning.


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'for those who can'

That's where it fails.


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First learn what DNA is and then we can talk.


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This misunderstanding is proving that DNA isn't a universal language. Not everybody can learn what DNA is to the extent and level of communicating with everyone about that one subject.

If by DNA you mean genetics then that becomes science and science isn't a universal language. It may act as a catalyst in some case helping us to understand things that WILL help us communicate but DNA itself is something that you HAVE to learn. ANYONE can listen to music and understand it. Different levels of understanding but the starting point of learning about music is just listening to it. To learn about DNA you have to actively study it.

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First learn what DNA is and then we can talk.


Learn what it is?

B-but I thought it was the universal language? We should be able to talk now right?

I know what DNA is.

You are so off the point it's ridiculous.


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Can you honestly say music is understood by all as a unversial language? We can listen to it, however what is music really saying that we can all understand? Deaf people can not hear music, so your argument breaks down here.


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"Can you honestly say music is understood by all as a unversial language? We can listen to it, however what is music really saying that we can all understand? Deaf people can not hear music, so your argument breaks down here"

Language is largely spoken and written. But what we are dealing with here is language through communication. Sounds that everybody can relate to, not necessarily lyrics and get whatever they want out of it. Deaf people can't hear music purely because they are unfortunatly handicapped. It's a natural defect not a fault in the communicator itself. If they could hear they would be able to use music just as everyone else could. Literature could be considered a great communicator but if you can't read it's your fault not the conduit for communication.

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It has often been pointed out that despite the great differences between cultures and natural languages on Earth, mathematics is the same the world over. In fact, scientists are inclined to believe that mathematics and the mathematical rules which underpin nature are universal, so that all intelligent races in space have at least this much in common. Since the fundamental properties of numbers are the same everywhere, these can be used as the basis of interstellar messages.

Plus, has anyone heard of the divine ratio?

Take a look at http://www.championtrees.org/yarrow/phi/phi2.htm

It is very interesting. Just my looking at a spiraling universe or flower we see GEOMETRY--which is math.

How we choose to communicate the world we experience is telling of the people we are. A culture that looks to possess (be it ideas or objects) will move toward a system of generic and specific labels- Math


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Re: Re: Universal Language

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Originally posted by lil bitchiness
Yes indeed. smile
I love Maths, im just not too great in it, but i really like it.


^ Me too laughing out loud

Mathematics is the only language shared by all human beings regardless of culture, religion, or gender. Pi is still 3.14159 regardless of what country you are in. Adding up the cost of a basket full of groceries involves the same math process regardless of whether the total is expressed in dollars, rubles, or yen. With this universal language, all of us, no matter what our unit of exchange, are likely to arrive at math results the same way... Read more from Math in Daily Life

This being from the movie Contact...
Mathematics is a universal language. Someone wishing to communicate with extraterrestrials would format their messages in numbers and symbols and broadcast them via the electronic spectrum. It would be a little too much to expect that any glass-skinned three-eyed bug listening for messages from the sky is going to happen to know English as a second language... from
Universal Language - Even in California laughing out loud


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