What mutant fight manovers is Iceman capable of doing?
I was just wondering i am aware of some such as Icicles and creating a Ice slides what else can he do with his powers?
suck the water out of living beings, merge with any body of water to appear elsewhere along a direct line through said body of water, add outside water to his ice-body to increase his size geometrically, create drastic cold without creating ice, apparently he can evaporate and recondense at will and even create ice in a moisture-free environment (space.) that's contestable, though, considering he was unable to reform his body due to lacking moisture in the draco arc of UXN, and the golgotha arc of x-men didn't occur too long after that...
iceman's capabilities???? here they are with an explaination as to how he can do them to:
Bobby Drake could be, potentially, one of the most powerful mutants on the planet. Look at his power. People say “Ooh! He makes ice.” Or
now, “Ooh, he can turn himself into ice!
But let’s step back. Basic physics says that there is no such thing
as “cold”, as a quantative energy form. Only degrees of heat. “Cold” is
a relative term, requiring a difference between the observerd target and
the temperature of the observer. Example:
I’m standing in my office, at a nice 73 degrees. The cabbie outside is
standing on the street, shivering in 40 degrees. To me, he is cold.
Whereas if I were buried in snow at around 20 degrees, I’d consider him
pretty warm.
Right then, we’ve established that there is no such energy form
as “cold”. So, Bobby doesn’t generate cold to form ice, and he doesn’t
generate the moisture himself (imagine how quickly he’d be dehydrated). Therefore, he forms his ice structures from the ambient
moisture in the enviroment around him. To do this he causes the
moisture to freeze.
But how? We know he doesn’t “project cold”, so then he must absorb or
dissipate the heat. By the laws of thermodynamics, energy is constant,
it cannot be created or destroyed. However, let’s go to another scientific
principle. Heat is a measurement of the internal kinetic energy of an
object. The more those atoms and molecules are buzzing
around, the hotter it is.
What Bobby Drake does, as I see it, is project a field that inhibits the
motion of those particles (herein referred to as Brownian Motion) thus
dropping the temperature and freezing the moisture.
However, the amount of water vapor in any given area is not consistent
with the large stunts he regularly pulls of ( Ice slides, ice walls, ect). If
he wer to coalesce that much water vapor in one place and freeze it, the
humidity all along the Eastern Seaboard would drop dramatically, we’d
have wildcat lightning storms all over the place, cats and dogs
living together, it would be anarchy, you see my point.
So that extra frozen mass has to come from somewere. Remember water vapor isn’t the only thing in the air. You have a mixture of all
sorts of gases. One of the most prominent of these is carbon dioxide.
Compared to the other prominent gases in our atmosphere
(nitrogen, the most common, and oxygen), carbon dioxide has a
relatively high temperature (although still incredibly low) at which it
becomes solid. It is my theory that the most part of Bobby’s ice
structures are composed of frozen carbon dioxide, or “dry ice”. This
would explain why Manhattan isn’t flooded everytime his ice slides melt,
since most of it sumblimes into gaseous carbon dioxide.
So, what Bobby does is inhibit the Brownian Motion of objects. He can
do this so quickly that there is no expansion of the target’s water
content, as was seen when he flash-froze Legion completely. Had he
merely frozen all the moisture in Legion’s body, well....put an unopened
can of soda in the freezer sometime. Wait a few days. Watch the results.
Legion would be a messy red chunck when he thawed.
Bobby is an incredibly powerful cryokinetic. But thats not the only extent
to his powers. Since Mikhail’s fiddling, he can transform his entire body
into a water-based organism. In his form of homogenous ice, his
thought processes go on, even though water is a MUCH less efficient
conductor than neurons in the human brain. Basically, Bobby converts
all the molecules of his body into water, and freezes it and molds it as
he moves. He has the capability to assume a completely liquid form (as
Emma did when in control of his body) as well has the ability
to “teleport” by zapping his consciousness through water vapor in the
atmosphere, reforming at his desired location. In AoA, this was referred
to “moisture inversion”. He has also shown the ability to “levitate”
himself though he rarely uses this ability.
Through time and practice Bobby could one day realize his potiental.
Here are somethings that could do through realization and training:
Create a “giant” ice form with corresponding strength and stability
Create and animate multiple ice forms
Coalese all the water vapor in an area into a superdense solid, dropping
the humidity rapidly, resulting in chaotic weather effects, mass electrical
storms, ect
Inhibiting the moisture in other peoples bodies causing havok on them, or hitching a ride.
As well as many other stunts. In closing, Bobby is a rightful Omega
class powered mutant he just hasnt realized his full potiental as of yet.
hmmm. considering he turns his entire body, the various elements and molecules that comprise his organs and such, into frozen hydrogen and oxygen, i think some of the science of bobby's powers can be ignored. his powers may very well "disperse heat" as opposed to "radiate cold," but considering there's no other practical application of various other laws, brownian, thermodynamic or otherwise, we can really just chock it up to being a comic book.
also, unless he created such vast and thick ice slides as to blanket the city, wouldn't the melting of the ice never be a threat to manhattan. water's the only known compound to have a higher volume when it densifies, so when it would melt, there'd be less water around than there'd been ice. and, if we apply natural thermodynamic principles to the melting ice, it would melt at a rate that caused nothing more than a drizzle along a certain path.
your explanation's well thought out and somewhat practical, as was the 'science of the x-men' book, but it doesn't completely apply to the applications it tries to explain. for example, bobby created and directed ice in space, from the palm of his hand. to have hydrokinetically brought moisture from earth's atmosphere into "outer space," and only let the near-absolute zero temperatures affect it when he chose to, is something unexplainable as far as science would define bobby's powers.
you sound like someone from another forum, whose name is Irish2002, in the same way that stormfront sounds like stormbreaker. figured i'd drop a subtle question to see if you were one and the same or not. as it seems, you're not.
considering that the explaination is not my own, that might be it. I mean i would love to have people think i was smart enough to say all that, but i cant take credit where credit isnt due. I also understand what your saying, but I have always seen that explaination as the closest thing to real that you can get when it comes to comic book science.....I mean nothing can be 100% totally accurate since they change peoples powers every third month, however it suits my purposes more often then not to let people know about iceman as scientifically as I can.....
anyways to get back on topic are there any other powers we missed?
KMC Community Forums
Aug 13th, 2005 09:14 AM
I agree. Both literally and figurativily is all. 
