WILL SOME ONE PLZ HELP ME OUT?!?!? im so confussed in the ending of the 8th it says Saint Dane fly's up into the sky and into the convergence, wut does tht mean?!?!? i think tht saint dane wannted bobby to blow up the flume, only then the convergence could happen
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I honestly don't remember reading that. I don't know if something like that was said. The only thing I could think of is that he flew off to complete the convergence or something. (I kinda now wish I wasn't at school so i could go check... Yes.... I'm at school. Not doing any work at all. BUT! It's only the last day so we're not really doing anything in my class right now. I stil about an hour to write what i feel)
OK! So from here on out, I'm going to be writing about the third book, my views, the upsetting parts, and all that... other stuff about it.
So, I finished it lastnight and I kinda wish that it didn't end how it ended.
I do want to give some kudos to Melbu, for the fact that a good amount of the predicitions kinda came true.
And also, I'm kinda really upset with the grammatical errors I found in this book. I don't think I found any in the others, but I am wanting to reread them. BUT! AH! As it said, "I took me..." IT should be IT TOOK ME... Page 99.
On page 3-hundered-something prolly, um.. the verb "tasered" is capitalized. That really upset me.
So uh... back to the issue of the book. I kind of thought it was really lame how Bobby said that the turning point of Halla was the turning point of Second Earth. Even though that pretty much is now true after reading the end, it was just that. It kinda shows that The author is a little biast when it comes to where he comes from (no offense). But Saying that Second Earth was the turning point of Halla was lame. Though I do agree that the books are good with the turning point being the turning point on Halla. But I just didn't feel it was all that great. It was just that you could kind of see it coming.
The ending... really left me wanting more. It was that perfect thing to me with the whole "reunion" thing going on, and then all the stuff with the "are you ready?" stuff. It's just one of those perfect moments for me wanting to have sometime if i ever had an adventure that will never exist.
Just sad that they all died. I kind of really want to know what happened to Siry. Pissed me off that he didn't even get one chapter. Even though I realize that the book had nothing to relate to him with, but I wanted to know. Maybe just a quick, couple page chapter on what happened when he found out that he couldn't go to Ibara in the flume. And then ending up meeting up with Loor and trying to start life anew on Zadaa. And jsut for the heck of it I want to know how the other travelers died. And the thing is. That whole time and space thing is kind of weird. I'm thinking about it saying that in Second Earth currently, Aja could still be alive on Veelox, and then in that place where Bobby currently is, is where Aja is now. And thenwhere Aja currently would be on Veelox, Patrick could've died ages ago. I just wonder. It confuses my brain trying to think about it.
Um... there was something else. Oh! If someone went into the flume, and said Ibara, does anyone think it would work, or would it not? Cause technically it could bring him to the Rubic City flume. But that is debatable. But I just think that Ibara is just a time thing and it would work but go to Rubic City.
I kind of wish the book wasn't as slow. Some of the things in there were just... boring. I didn't really want to read about how Bobby's life felt so great and every so often checking the flume. I just want the story in which Bobby needed to learn about his life and such.
OH! Learning that Nevva/Saint Dane/Naymeer could manipulate the time they arrived on territories on flumes totally takes the fun out of guessing what can happen. That just sucks. And if they can manipulate themselves, could they possibly manipulate other traveler's times? saint Dane or Nevva could have purposely made Alder get back to Denduron many months after he had left. Or Bobby really late to helping Aja against Saint Dane on Veelox.
Wait... Wouldn't the "good" travelers help each other out with helping to see if anyone knew anything on what their lives were about and such? Cause Aja never really taught Bobby how to do that thing with the ring and stuff. (The end of book 3). Like her head appeared from the ring. Of course, I'm pretty sure it wasn't one of those hologramic cards... Cause she talked to him. And she couldn't have known what she was going to say. At least I think that she talked to him. Now I need to read the end of that. (Oh man flashbacks through memory lane).
I'm almost out of class time.
Also, what really bugs me is that Aja never showed up again after book 4 until now. I mean, yeah there was the time in book 8 in which bobby saw her journal (did he keep that? I doubt he could remember the whole thing in his head, but then again... it's bobby) And then he went to veelox to tell her that she was in danger, but she refused to go with him, due t the whole "I don't want to confuse people of Ibara", and "That is the way it was meant to be" stuff.
I really thought it would've been cool if she joined Bobby in Quillan. Even though that bobby couldn't go back to the flume unti after, I kinda wished that he would've contacted someone. Anyone. Just because I really wanted Aja in the books more. I hope that she can somehow uh... play a big part in the last book.
Denduron- Bobby, Alder, Loor (Osa, Press)
Cloral- Bobby Spader (Spader's dad, Press)
First Earth- Gunny, Bobby, Spader
Veelox- Aja, Loor, Bobby
Eelong- Gunny, Kasha, Spader, Bobby
Zadaa- Bobby, Loor, Alder
Quillan- Bobby, Nevva (Elli) (Remudi)
Ibara- Siry, Bobby, Alder
Second Earth- Bobby, Alder
I dont know but the most reoccuring are Loor and Alder. ALthough I understand the positions of Spader and Gunny, but I know that the two of them would've been there the entire time if they didn't get trapped. And they should've tried to make a flume so that Eelong could be gotten to.
Well I currently have time to think some more about what I've said so far cause class is over. I need to vent some more. Also, I kinda am excited about book 10 though I have to wait 11 months. BUT! I am definitely ready for book 10 and wanted to see this final battle for so long. I kinda hope that they go to some alternate reality where each territory is kind of molded together. And then in each area each traveler would be able to guide the rest through the world until they get to the next check point.. Elaborate later!!!! I gotta go
number 9 is out and ten involves the fact that everything is going wrong the convergence is starting to happen there is a website i will post later that gives number nine and ten spoilers trust the books are awesome
when bobby is on ibara louque had survived and came back on a skimmer (holy shit he survived the broken glass) and told him all this stuff about something on veelox and some more travelers ended up dying like patrick mac and some other people but bobby doesn't do anything so another traveler takes his place named alexander something but i will post the rest later
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The book begins with separate narratives focusing on Patrick Mac and Alder, the travelers of Third Earth and Denduron respectively. It follows the changes in their home territories and their realization that they are without Bobby Pendragon. On Denduron, the Bedoowan knights are using the explosive tak that Bobby unearthed to start a war with a neighboring tribe. On Third Earth, the once Utopian planet has morphed into a waste world. Pendragon, meanwhile, has been living comfortably on Ibara, the island community located on Veelox. Pendragon's own description states that he has been a contributor and leader of the rebuilding of Ibara, which was destroyed in the previous book by Saint Dane's DADO army. Days after an unsettling conversation with Saint Dane, Pendragon encounters a drifting skimmer bearing a dying passenger on board (this passenger being Loque, one of the Jakills from The Pilgrims of Rayne who amazingly survived having a large amount of broken glass fall on him). After hearing Loque's story of digging in a mine with the Flighters in Rubic City, Bobby assumes that Saint Dane is after the flume and decides to prevent the flume from being reopened. He fails, and later discovers that Nevva Winter, Saint Dane's ally, has been living on Ibara disguised as Tribune Genj's daughter, Telleo, whom she killed months before. Hearing from her that Denduron is in danger, Bobby reluctantly sets out to rescue it.
Emerging onto Denduron, Pendragon is nearly killed by a quig, later to be healed by Alder, whom he rescues from prison. Later, after failing to reseal the newly opened tak mine, the two of them realize that the territory is lost; therefore they travel to Second Earth to battle Saint Dane.
On First Earth (1937) Mark and Courtney find that they have failed to prevent Mark's inventions from altering Earth's history. Mark is then black-mailed into giving up his Traveler ring to Nevva. They then head to the flume only to be intercepted by Patrick who came to First Earth in search of Bobby after realizing he couldn't save Third Earth alone. Mark and Courtney then return to Second Earth with Patrick in tow. Upon arriving they find that many people are worshiping a new cult, Ravinia, and both flumes have been revealed by Alexander Naymeer who is the leader of Ravinia and the "new" traveler of Second Earth as Bobby has quit. He is using the ring Nevva took from Mark. The goal of Ravinia is to reward the people who contribute to society, while punishing those who do not. Mark, Courtney, and Patrick head to the other flume to get off of Second Earth only to be intercepted by Naymeer. A chase ensues and Patrick narrowly gets away but not before being shot. Mark and Courtney are captured and brought to Naymeer's home which happens to be on top of one of the flumes.
A mortally wounded Patrick arrives on Denduron just as Alder and Bobby are about to leave. They heal him and send him back to Third Earth to find out what a possible Second Earth turning point could be. They then head to Second Earth to find Mark and Courtney. Bobby comes out in the flume below Naymeer's house. Just before Bobby arrives, Naymeer tells Mark and Courtney that the flumes and Traveler rings are made of dark matter. Bobby, Alder, Mark, and Courtney all talk with Naymeer who tells them he can't be stopped. They disagree and escape to Courtney's family's boat where thay all decide that a vote to nominate Ravinia as "spiritual advisor" to the entire world is the turning point of Second Earth. Courtney's parents then show up with the cops. Another chase ensues and Mark and Courtney are captured but Bobby and Alder escape and take refuge with the main protester of Ravinia, Haig Gastigian.
Patrick, on Third Earth, learns that the destruction there has begun with a mostly forgotten event known as the Bronx Massacre. He is killed while trying to convey word of this, but succeeds in telling Bobby about the event by sending him a message through his ring. Bobby and Alder witness what they think is the Bronx Massacre when Naymeer sends 12 people, including Mark and Courtney, into the flume to an unknown destination. Bobby and Alder later hear from Haig Gastigian, that he is holding a rally of 70,000 people in Yankee Stadium. At the rally the UN's vote is revealed to favor Ravinia, whereupon the 70,000 protesters gathered in Yankee Stadium are pulled into a giant flume which Naymeer creates, causing the true Bronx Massacre. Alder tries to stop him, but is killed in the process. Bobby is brought to a helicopter and flown above the stadium to witness everyone's deaths. It is revealed that Haig Gastigian was really Nevva who lured all the people to the stadium. Realizing this, Bobby throws Naymeer into the flume. At this, Saint Dane claims victory because Bobby had stooped to his level and failed his last test. Naymeer, falling into the flume, causes a beam of light to strike the helicopter. It spins out of control and falls into the flume. Saint Dane and Nevva escape and later tell the Conclave of Ravinia, the head of Ravinia, that Naymeer is dead but that Nevva is trained to take his place.
Bobby then finds himself in space, looking down at the flumes, and watches them explode. He wakes up in the middle of an oblivious landscape, where he is confronted by his Uncle Press and the other nine travelers of his generation, both dead and alive. Uncle Press says that now is the right time to stop Saint Dane, since he believes that he has won. He also says that it is time for the current Travelers to learn the truth about themselves. The Travelers decide to finish the fight with Saint Dane, once and for all.
It is never explained how or when Bobby managed to write the journals in Raven Rise. It is revealed that one of his journals he left on Ibara and another was left on a boat where he hid while on Second Earth
I have to tell all you fan out there that i agree with you on these books are fabulous. I have started reading these book about 2 months ago, and i have to tell u i completly love it! I have gotten to book 6 and so far it is the best out there. i am new to this website and this is my first message so far but there will be more. If you just want to talk about the books then i am your gal! So far my favorite character is loor and courtney. bobby seems cool and a smooth guy. in book 6 i really thought loor and bobby were going to kiss that would have been awesome. i feel bad for what happened to courtney though. but back to me i would love to talk to somebody about these books that would be nice so please people message me or what ever you do on this website. pendragon books rock!
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ok here's what i think... i think there is more than 1 saint dane. tricky, i kno but wat can u do i had more i think but i kinda forgot about them... lol i read harry potter WAY too quickly afterward... lol if u have ne comments write me
No theres not 2 Saint Danes! he can travel through the flume it puts him were he needs to be when he needs to be there.
what i want to know is what territory is saint dane from? weve been to all of them in the book right and we know all the travelers from the territorys. im on book 9 so if some one needs help figuring some thing out up to nine i can help you and i swear i wont spoil any thing! my E-Mail is [email protected] PLEASE E-MAIL ME IF YOU NEED TO TALK ABOUT THE BOOKS WITH SOME ONE I'LL LISTEN AND I COULD USE SOME ONE TO TALK TO ABOUT IT TOO! lol
First Earth- Gunny Van Dyke
Veelox- Aja Killian
Eelong- Seegan and Kasha
Zadaa- Loor and Osa
Second Earth- Tilton Press and Bobby Pendrangon
Third Earth- Patrick Mac
Quillan- Challenger Yellow
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