Superman still never destroyed planets with his punches before.
The closest he ever came to doing that was when he punched the Moon over and over and over again and Martian Manhunter said he would punch it out of the orbit if he continues or something like that.
That is pretty weak, but to be fair: I think that Superman was poisoned by Kryptonite at that point.
And then we have someone like Blue Marvel, who could have destroyed the entire Moon with one punch according to the Watcher.
Why am I the last guy to say something like that?
I created an entire Sentry Disrespect Thread with nearly all of his low showings.
That is called being self-aware. If I would have done something like that for Superman you would have had a tantrum like a toddler.
Here are people like the DumbOne, Insane (LITERALLY INSANE) Titan and yourself and I'm supposed to be the worst poster? Gonna pass on that, son.
Well, Drax was listening to everything Captain Mar-Vell said after he threw the punch. I'm not sure how many people are able to hear something while being out cold.
You're just butthurt, because Sentry owns your Superdudebro.
Am I making too much sense for you?
UUUUUH, I meant Captain Marvel.
My mind was somewhere else. But then again, it's always hard recalling DC characters since they're all copies from each other.
Comicvine banned me, because I called people out for being stupid. Luckily the mods on Killermovies are not that sensitive.
Are you talking about the mini-black-hole-instance? And are you really saying that's a feat of strength? Dude ... Just give it up.
It's the internet after all. Say shit and someone will call you out on your shit. "But it's just like ... man ... my opinion dude, so deal with it, man..." Yes and your opinion sucks and is wrong.
He was poisoned and drained by Parasite. Its a great feat when he was nearly dead the next day.
Superman said supergirl could split the earth in half without trying, batman said the same about superman. Its meaningless hyperbole.
Which I'm sure you did because you hate sentry and in every thread diss him? Right?
Go ahead and create one. I would simply laugh at your expanse.
ODG is 10 times the poster you are however obnoxious he is.
He was face down lying in the dirt but he wasn't KOED? Hahaha.
Again with this sentry BS? I honestly don't even think of sentry vs superman.
You never even make sense.
Sucker punches. This is what happens when superman and captain marvel goes to a real slugfest. He beats his ass so badly that his teammates wonder how he's alive.
I think no mental blocks for both would be a great fight.
Glads is more ruthless than Clark in his normal showings but even his ferocity scales.
For example an instance where Lilandravs a casual Imperial Guard patrol is threatened produces a whole different Gladiator.
Superman would still win but Glads will make him fight for it
Besides the fact that the structure of that entire sentence doesn't make ANY sense at all ... I never mentioned ODG at all, so pay attention, when you read something (not the first time you're being called out on that one).
The rest of your response is pretty much mindless garbage and I'm not going to bother spending time to nullify that BS.
I have more important things to do. To make it more understandable even for you: while I theorize about the meaning of life, you're trying to figure out how the quote function on this board works (not the first time you're being called out on that one).
On topic:
Just to clarify my opinion on this encounter once again:
Gladiator wins the striking exchange, due to him having planet busting (WITH STRIKES) feats, which one can't say for Superman, who does have better strength feats, but in the end of the day it doesn't matter in a punch fest.
The New 52 Superman has been able to bench-press the Earth for 5 days straight, but every single of his high end punches was stated to be mountain busting level. EVERY. SINGLE. ONE. There is no assuming that he can do more at this point.
Just because I can benchpress 220 pounds of steel / rock / whatever, doesn't mean that I can punch through these 220 pounds.
Striking demands more than just strength. Comic book wise it also demands a certain degree of experience and your typical planet buster has it: Thor, Beta Ray Bill, Gladiator and hell even the Classic Drax, who was created as a warrior, who was destined to kill Thanos.
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Bench pressing earth for 5 days.
Just thinking about it makes my head hurt.
I can bench press for about 10 minutes and I will be sweating like a pig depending if I am bench pressing my maximum.
If I am bench pressing my minimum I could do it for a longer period of time.
But bench pressing earth for five days with out any food o energy to recover any loos of energy is just too much, We just don't even know how many reps they were of if He just kept the weight up, in any case is just too much strength.
And if I have displayed that I can bench press 400 lbs in 5 reps but I have never broke a pinata with my bare fist, it does not mean I can't, just that I haven't.
The mountain level punches are easily explained with another logical conclusion, so I am not even getting into that.
You're not going to break a 400 lbs pinata with your hands.
This is now about the flaw where people are assuming that because Superman can benchpress the planet that he can also destroy it, which is simply wrong and stupid.
Strenght =/ Striking, no matter how you look at it.
- Benchpress 400 lbs, but you won't break a 400 lbs pinata
- Benchpress 400 lbs, but you might be able to break a regular pinata
- Benchpress 2 bricks, but you won't be able to break them
- Fail to benchpress 400 lbs, but you might be able to break a layer of bricks, if you have the technique and the experience
No matter how you twist and turn it ... Gladiator has never benchpressed the planet, but he broke planets with his fists, while the opposite applies for Superman.
Gladiator has the fighting experience, Superman does not. And knowing Kryptonian Kung Fu doesn't cut it.
- When he hit H'El it was stated that the punch would have toppled a mountain, or something like that...
- When he punched that big ass Dragon Snake, it was stated that it would have leveled a mountain...
- When talking about himself, Superman said how he can lift city blocks and level mountains with bare strikes...
And hell, there are maybe even more instances, where he is only reduced to mountain level ... was not not amped up with solar radiation by Dr. Light, who he then thought he would have killed and punched against the ground in rage, which only caused a big debris?
^Īt's a matter of durability and strength. For Superman, earth is like a cream tart. I can benchpress the cream tart and I can break it with my fist easily, even if it's the same weight.
And funny, DC is full of copies of it's own chars, but Marvel full of copies from DC, like Sentry and Glads.
Supermans feats are superior to Glads.
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It's all about the density. Replace the cream tart with a brick. You will be able to lift it as well, but will you be able to crush it? I HIGHLY DOUBT THAT.
The Earth is also not like a cream tart for Superman. Barely any planet is. Pre 52 Superman has FAILED to acomplish planetary level strength feats more often than he actually kinda managed to acomplish something.
Only New 52 Superman now has that one ridiculous Earth benchpress feat, which at this point should really be considered as major WIS = Writing Induced Stupity and that's what it is - it was simply a randomly thrown out feat without ANY purpose. Not even a plot purpose, therefore it can't be labled as a power establishment feat for Superman, since he failed to replicate it many times.
With a planetary level strength he should have been able to simply restrain Orion, or the dragon snake, or Captain Marvel or whoever he came across, but he hasn't and he most likely never will.
PIS on that part, you say? Well, that would mean that Orion, the Dragon Snake (hell what was that?) and Captain Marvel all have planetary level strength so that Superman can't take on them.
Otherwise Superman should do it, if he wants to end his fights quickly and not let innocents get hurt.
Face it, Superman's striking is terrible. Everyone, who understands comics and hell even the real world knows that.
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He did it for 5 days not one time.
Can you bench press a cardboard box for 5 says? I assume that if you have the stamina you could, so If you could bench press a cardboard box for five days, you think you don't have enough strength to destroy said box?
So if you can bench press and object for five days with barely any perspiration and no food to regain energy, I am sure you have enough strength to destroy that object.
How much do you weight? lets say 180 lbs, lets say that We look for someone who can bench press you for 5 days straight with out a rest. After he lifted you for 5 days straight, go in front of him, piss him off and I am sure he has enough strength to fuq you up.
So, Do you think that someone who can bench press you for 5 straight days cannot destroy you?
I agree with you that bench pressing is not the same as striking.
If I can bench press an object only ONCE, Yes you are correct, I don't have the strength to do it, but if I Bench press the same object for 5 days straight and you think I don't have the strength to do it, you are completely and utterly wrong.
Also see above response
Superman easily split that moon on Jupiter and damaged the moon with the shock wave of his punch. Plus He has that example of almost knocking the moon out of it's orbit while poisoned by K, moving a celestial out of it's orbital trench >>>> destroying a celestial object, It requires more force, if you don't believe me ask the asteroid belt, in our solar system.
Destroying celestial objects in the manner Superman has done and denying it, it will be like you telling me that I can cut a piece of butter with a knife but the same knife cannot cut a larger piece of butter?
Now, think about this
You can bench press a planet for 5 days straight with no rest, you are just pushing that planet up and down for five days.
One day, you decide to punch that planet but you only break a mountain.
So the premises are
You can bench press earth for five days, not one time, not one minute, not one hour, not one day, but FIVE days with out difficult
You produce mountain leveling punches
What logical conclusion We can get out of it?
Conclusion 1
You are only capable of mountain leveling punches, but you can lift a planet for days straight with out effort, therefore you can only punch with mountain leveling punches, no matter how hard you hit and no matter how strong you are.
Conclusion 2
You can bench press a planet for five days, but you decide to hit just hard enough to level a mountain because you might destroy the planet you are trying to protect, therefore you can hit harder than that.
So that's it, pick the conclusion it makes sense to you, though I think anyone can see what is the most logical conclusion, because one of them does not makes sense.
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