OK, getting some bulked up Hollywood guy like The Rock or Vin Diesel is a bad idea. And even worse idea would be to choose Brock Lesnar.
Man, I used to watch wrestling A LOT. Brock Lesnar has been acting for about 1-2 years. He was a complete newcomer and had to learn fast. He doesn't have what it takes to play Eddie Brock. FACT.
I'm with badsymbiote on this one - I want Venom to be a good actor above everything else. The fact that he is tall and muscley should come second in priority. Venom is a seriously disturbed character.
When we've had the fantastic casting of Willem Dafoe and Alfred Molina as the previous villains, do you think they'll go for the next villain based solely on looks?
I think the someone who looks a bit like the guys who played John Jameson or Flash Thompson would be ideal. That's the kind of bulked up ******* we need.
Also, he can't be a total pretty boy either. Someone who compliments Tobey Maquire easily - you know, someone who isn't amazingly handsome. In the end, Venom is a very tragic character, we need to feel quite sorry for him.
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Yeah, what he said. And the caliber of actors previously used illustrates a good point. They have a standard to live up to here, and as long as they take the time to find the right guys, this storyline could be a real thing of beauty. I want to feel the appropriate amount of heartache when I see Brock's story on screen, and I can wait for them to do it right.
I'm not usually in for this "community" shit, but I think you've got a point here. A) It would be a goddamn honour and the buzz of a lifetime for a fan like badsymbiote to play Venom in a movie adaption, B) It'd be really cool to have She-Venom instead of the Venom that everybody is expecting. There'd be an uproar, sure, but... **** em
If he wasn't already committed to the next Batman incarnation, I would say Christian Baal. He may not have the right look, but the guy can do mind games pretty well, and while I may not know everything about the Venom character, it always seemed to me to be something that has to get inside your head, even more than DeFoe did as the Goblin.
Also as for the facial features of Venom, I hope they don't do it all CG. I would like to think that they could take something like the prosthetics (spelling? who cares, I'm a tech major) in Spawn and make their movements *not* suck. I just don't know how well CG could work if you have to do it every time you have Venom be 'in costume,' especially if they get some of those badass taunting moments where Venom has Spidey locked up and is just berating him at point blank range.
p.s. don't flame me too bad, I'm new =D
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You right but there is only one person that can bring Venom to the big screen without uneccessary CGI and that person is Stan Winston. He has done Aliens, Predator, Terminator 1,2,3, Jurrasic Park 1,2,3, Big Fish, Edward Scissorhands, and tons more. Plus he is currently doing Superman.
I could see Christian Bale doing Carnage. If anyone has ever seen the movie American Psycho, you know what I'm talkin' about.
"I just had to kill a lot of people!!" That line, and the way Bale delievers it is just...hilarious but at the same time, sickening.
Of course, I could see Jim Carrey doing the role as well. That guy can play some twisted characters. He could play Cletus Kassady like a cross between the Riddler from Batman Forever, and the guy from the Cable Guy.
Casting Eddie Brock would be much harder I think though, just because everyone has a very particular perception of that character. There are plenty of people out there with the right look, but who may not possess the right acting ability or whatever. Then there are others who don't have the look, but could probably bring the character of Eddie Brock to life. I'm of the opinion that the producers should just hire a total unknown. I doubt that'd have much impact on ticket sales, because well, just look at the X-men, or movies like the original Star Wars trilogy. Who knew who Harrison Ford was back in 77?
PS- I miss the day and age of animatronics, and actors wearing elaborate part-mechanic costumes. Now its all CG-this, and George W-that.
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Hugh Jackman is far from a star. Look at the movies he's been in since "X Men". "Kate and Leopold"? "Swordfish"? It's like X Men is is saving grace. "Van Helsing" proved he can't run outside of the pack.
Same can be said for James Marsden, with absolutely nothing aside from "X Men". Tyler Mane? Nada. Ray Park? He had "Episode 1" to thank for any subsequent success, which there wasn't any. He's done 2 notible movies, in which he had 3 speaking lines!!
Rebecca Romijn was world renowned long before "X Men", she was a very successful swimsuit model. She has had, what, less than 10 lines in the 2 movies, and followed that up with the horrific "Godsend", where she was ghastly.
Look at James Franco. His only other movie is an indie about a ballet company!
The point of all this is that they may be "famous" in some respect, for appearing in "X Men", they aren't great actors, and the movies haven't got them anymore work. Notice a pattern of all these people not heading up any movies, muchless, all of them appearing in ensamble movies, with little supporting roles.
To cast a nobody as "Venom" would be a big mistake, IMO.
Once again you misunderstand me look at my post again notice I capatalized SOME when I said some of the actors or actress were famous now. What I meant was Rebecca was unknown as an actress before X-Men. Rebecca, Hugh, and James have all landed films after X-Men. Hugh is definitely famous now maybe not like Brad Pitt or someone like that but he is still famous. Rebecca has done other films and is now famous regardless of how unsuccessful or bad those movies are Rollerball, Godsend, Femme Fatale, and The Punisher. James recently had a role in The Notebook and will soon star in the new films Preacher, The Alibi, Heights, Gray Matters, and 10th & Wolf. Thats what I meant by some. The people who didn't move on were Ray Park and Tyler Mane.
For Venom I like Everbeck, who's about as unknown as they come, and straight to boot. Another possibility is a guy named John Brusketer, though he may be a tad old now for the role. He played in the movie "Can't Buy Me Love" with a very young but adorable Seth Green and Ami Dolenz, the daughter of Mickey Dolenz, who was the drummer and singer for the Monkees, and the original voice of Scooby Doo in 1969.
For Carnage (and I ONLY mention this because you guys are still talking about casting someone for the role of Cletus Kasady), the only person I'm even interested in seeing is Jake Busey--Gary Busey's kid. That guy would fit the role like a glove.
Well, maybe everyone's over their initial rage. I got quite the negative reaction, as I mentioned earlier.
I know that if Vin Diesel were in it, my sister would at least watch it. She's so wierd. Can you imagine anyone not liking Spider-man or any comics heroes for that matter? Bizarre. But, she IS my sis, and I love her dearly.