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I agree with back fire he Bush will be killed and alot of people do hate him with pasion! I am one of those people.


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But Dont think that i would be the one that would kill him {lol}


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Originally posted by BackFire
I dunno, I just think someone will kill him. Too many people hate him with a passion, plus it's been quite a while since there's been an assasination, I think we're due.


There is that so-called curse, where presidents who are elected on years ending in zero (ie 2000) seem to always have something bad happen -- assassination, attempted assassination, severe illness, etc...(we talked about that in my US History class and government classes yes )

Bush? A puppet? Of course he is.


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i don't think anyone will try to kill him, because the people who really hate him are the ultra liberals, who obviously are really big on gun control and non-violence, so it probably won't happen


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Originally posted by lil bitchiness
I dont know if you were refering to me in that post at all...libs???

You know what, you're right, your soo right,, i shouldnt give a shit what you do overthere in America, because you are officialy the most hated people in the world, and your ''omg Bush is so great, must bow to his greatness'' attitude doesnt help that, but hey...its your country, if you are so blinded by authority that you will follow what any idiot tells you, then good luck to you.

You dont need to feel sorry for me, oh no, i am not a pro-bush, gay hating American. Save the sorrow for others, including yourself.


Are we on the same thread here Lil? I have never, ever said ''omg Bush is so great, must bow to his greatness'' or even implied that in any of my posts. I think he's a good, decent man that doesn't deserve half the hatred and criticism that is pushed his way. I've given Kerry every chance to show his worth and he's failed in my eyes. Thats doesn't mean Bush is God. Just that, IMO, he'll do a better job than Kerry.

I asked a question to fellow US citizens because I wanted to see if any of them could come up with viable reasons as to why Kerry deserves ANY support whatsoever. I am really sorry if you felt left out, but I just wanted to hear from Americans, since it was a question that will more directly affect us. Youre not voting in the election, so why would I want to hear your answer??? That doesn't mean you shouldn't care what happens here...on the contrary, we are one of the most powerful countries on the planet, so you damn well better be paying attention.

I am a literal, straight-forward type of person. You don't need to read anything into what I say, so please stop trying.

Finally, its not you who I feel sorry for. Its guys like Tex, who live here. Those poor chumps are stuck with a president they hate. Thats gotta suck...although I think they just enjoy bitching about whoever happens to be in power. stick out tongue


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He was a sock, from what I heard.

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I don't know what a sock is, except for something you put on your feet...but ok. Gone is gone.

Uhhh...Go Bush!!! Die evil Liberal Rebel Scum!!!! Yaaaaarrrrgghghghghggghhghgghh!!!

Just getting things back on topic.


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Originally posted by Silver Stardust
There is that so-called curse, where presidents who are elected on years ending in zero (ie 2000) seem to always have something bad happen -- assassination, attempted assassination, severe illness, etc...(we talked about that in my US History class and government classes yes )

Bush? A puppet? Of course he is.


actually, that curse ended with Reagan. Reagan did not die. Plus, curses are for 100 years. also ending with Reagan. so Bush is safe.


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Damn,

OK you wanted reasons why Bush shouldn't be re-elected.
1) Tecnicly he never WAS elected, and Yes I am still bitching about that because its a valid point.

2) Iraq. Damn I could have handled that better. Taking us to war on false pretexts is criminal, and makes buch the ultamate Liar. no justification at all for that war, No WMD's No chemicals weapons, the ppl hate us and its turning into another 'nam/Isreal

3) Our economy blows right now, and don't buy that inherited a recession bull. Bush got elected on the biggest economic boom in 20 some-odd years. yes Sept 11th dropped it, thats to be expected but our recovery has sucked and it could have been MUCH better.

4) He believes in the No child left behind act, nuff said.

5)The patriot act.

6)He's a puppet

7) Cheney has WAY too many corprate ties, and is making WAY too much money off Halaburton in Iraq.

8) He plays sept. 11th way too damn much, Did you see the RNC? Sick.

9) He was the nerve to put Zell Miller on the RNC, that dude is a 100% certifiable nutcase.

10) He is a bigger flip-flopper than Kerry.

There how's that?


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actually, that curse ended with Reagan. Reagan did not die. Plus, curses are for 100 years. also ending with Reagan. so Bush is safe.


Nonono, you misunderstood what I put. I didn't say that they necessarily died, just that something bad happened. There was an assassination attempt on Reagan (elected in 1980), Kennedy (1960) was assassinated, FDR (1940) died in office...there are more examples that I can't remember off the top of my head though.


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heres the thing peope. If you like paying for people to live off of your money. Like these teen mothers who have several babie's daddies. Or people who stand in line in front of you at the grocery store, who are wearing jewlery you could only wish to one day afford, and sporting a 100 dollar hair style all the while paying for groceries that would bust you for two weeks with an access card. If you like paying for these people, and if you like hearing them bit.ch and moan about how much we owe them and why havent they got a tax relief, then by all means vote for Kerry. If you think you should get what you work for,then you might want to pay a little more attention to the republicans

Kerry wants to give people on access more money, so all of these people are going to vote for him. Where does thismoney come from? you and i who work hard for a living. Kerry doesnt know what the hell he wants to do with anything. He hasnt taken a solid stand on anything,atleast anything that doesnt shadow bush's opinions. Bush isnt a bullshit artist. He tells you like it is.what you see is what you get. He believes in what he says and stands behind it.He wants this country to grow and prosper on the same path it has been for it's entire history, our own. We the people make this country what it is, Kerry will bring in the beginning of the end of America. He will hand over America's military to the U.N and sooner or later we will no longer have the Dollar,but be using the Euro, a one world bank as they say. Kerry is a bullshit artist, read between the lines people.


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heres the thing peope. If you like paying for people to live off of your money. Like these teen mothers who have several babie's daddies. Or people who stand in line in front of you at the grocery store, who are wearing jewlery you could only wish to one day afford, and sporting a 100 dollar hair style all the while paying for groceries that would bust you for two weeks with an access card. If you like paying for these people, and if you like hearing them bit.ch and moan about how much we owe them and why havent they got a tax relief, then by all means vote for Kerry. If you think you should get what you work for,then you might want to pay a little more attention to the republicans

Kerry wants to give people on access more money, so all of these people are going to vote for him. Where does thismoney come from? you and i who work hard for a living. Kerry doesnt know what the hell he wants to do with anything. He hasnt taken a solid stand on anything,atleast anything that doesnt shadow bush's opinions. Bush isnt a bullshit artist. He tells you like it is.what you see is what you get. He believes in what he says and stands behind it.He wants this country to grow and prosper on the same path it has been for it's entire history, our own. We the people make this country what it is, Kerry will bring in the beginning of the end of America. He will hand over America's military to the U.N and sooner or later we will no longer have the Dollar,but be using the Euro, a one world bank as they say. Kerry is a bullshit artist, read between the lines people.



Bush doesn't say anything like it is.....I can some up a Bush speech right now "Freedom, we represent freedom, september 11th told us we're threatened from being free, we're a beacon of freedom all over the world, we need to keep ourselves free, blah blah blah war, i was wrong about iraq, but at least we got Hussein out."

Who know i wonder how many times Bush and all the people at the rnc have used to word freedom, i bet it's over 100 times in one speech. Meanwhile he diverts all the attention from other issues and concentrates on the war in iraq and how we're not safe....utter bullshit. Talk about something else for a change.

As for tax cuts, all they do is help the rich get richer. Basically he just threw money at the problem, typical Bush, taking the easy way out...i wouldn't expect anything less.


And how would Kerry hand over america's military to the U.N.? Yeah, Kerry would probably not act on such a big war as the one in iraq unless he had support from the U.N. and that's the whole point of the U.N. to keep an eye over all countries. It's a democracy itself.
But going it alone, like he did, and acting like we represent democracy all over the world when we completely ignored the U.N. was a dumbass move, THOSE types of things just isolate america more from the world, and makes people hate us more....BUSH will be the downfall of America because of this.


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Kerry wants to give people on access more money, so all of these people are going to vote for him. Where does thismoney come from? you and i who work hard for a living. Kerry doesnt know what the hell he wants to do with anything. He hasnt taken a solid stand on anything,atleast anything that doesnt shadow bush's opinions. Bush isnt a bullshit artist. He tells you like it is.what you see is what you get. He believes in what he says and stands behind it.He wants this country to grow and prosper on the same path it has been for it's entire history, our own. We the people make this country what it is, Kerry will bring in the beginning of the end of America. He will hand over America's military to the U.N and sooner or later we will no longer have the Dollar,but be using the Euro, a one world bank as they say. Kerry is a bullshit artist, read between the lines people.


OK,
A) How do you know what Keryy wants to do? you jsut said he doesn't take a solid stand on anything, but then you list a bunch of things you say Kerry's taken a stand on, what is it?

B) Bush not a bullshit artist? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
HAHAH
that was the biggest laugh I've had all week, thanks for that

C)What would be so wrong with that, A world bank? Using the Euro? Sure would help stabalize the economy.

D) How the hell do you know this?

E) Bush up's medicare costs, and decreases wealfare, he wants to privatize all health care, And drug costs have skyrocketed. Thats BAD if you havn't noticed.

F) Why can't he raise taxes, why is you money so damn important to you? I would gladly pay more taxes, if it ment that I got a better education, the streets are of a higher quality and that I don't have to fear that my house is broken into. We should take a note out of Europe's book, specificly Spain, Their taxes are high yes almost 30% I hear, but their citys are beautiful and Crime is at a minimum. Why is that so bad?

G) Oh and look how much we've been prospering since Bush has been in office. Wow! It jsut amazin (sarcasm Dur)
Our economy Blows balls! We arn't propering! open your eyes! stop watching Fox


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F) Why can't he raise taxes, why is you money so damn important to you? I would gladly pay more taxes, if it ment that I got a better education, the streets are of a higher quality and that I don't have to fear that my house is broken into. We should take a note out of Europe's book, specificly Spain, Their taxes are high yes almost 30% I hear, but their citys are beautiful and Crime is at a minimum. Why is that so bad?


Actually, the US's income tax rate (if I remember correctly, it's been nearly a year since I had economics) is somewhere around 38%, which is one of the lowest in the world. Other countries are in the 50-60% range.

The biggest problem I have with Bush is the tax cuts for the rich, when they obviously can pay their taxes. Apparently Bush doesn't remember a little event in history known as the French Revolution wink


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Hehe
They cut someones head off with a pocketknife during that.
Painfull really


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dude, you seriously need to stop getting your info from word of mouth, headlines, or biased liberal news talk shows. You have no concept of what you are arguing about, you are regurgatating everything every anti bush person on these boards say. Kerry has talked about his hopes to unite the US military with the UN . I guess you have to idea of what that means. Our country is as strong as it is becuase of the military.We have the power,but we dont have the balls. Bush has balls to go after people who threaten the American way of l;fe. Kerry wants to talk it out peacefully with people who have no idea of what peace means.

Why wouldnt the republicans use the word freedom in their campign?. Isnt that what makes this country what it is? Bush wants this country to be free, yet still atleast give an inkling of thought to having morales.aswell. Let me give you a refresher on what kind of person kerry is. After the democratic capigan, that arogant ass-hole held a rally for himself. What kind of shit is that? that was the first time that was ever done before. Yeah, the republicans talk about 9/11, but not nearly as much as you people are tying to make other believe. IT is usually in passing, or as a description that it changed everything, including, changing things that bush said he was going to do, he had to put more important issues up for chewin.

That tax relief. Hey man, maybe it diddnt help you,because your to young to have a steady job to support yourself, but it helped people like me and especially your parents, unless their rich. It helped us alot. I got 400$ That is a shit load of money to me,because i work for every god damn penny.Yeah,people who dont hold steady jobs, or live on welfare bit.ch about it, but then again when dont they? the rich isnt the problem in this country. It is the pussified wimps who think everything is owed to them. Rich people are generally rich from hard work. Their jobs are hard, it requires a lifestyle for them to live and work as. It is the sickly mother fo's who want more free shit given to them that is tearing this country apart, and kerry wants to give them some more free shit.People are so god damn wimpy today, no one wants to do what it takes. When i say no one i mean more than not okay.I am not naive or arogant, i just have open eyes. go live out in the world a little while, grow up a bit and maybe your opinion would count for somthing to me.

Bush showing that he doesnt need approval says that this country is still it's own independant nation,that does what it has to, to ensure the best intrests of the country. dont give me that shit about, Iraq qasnt in our best intrests, because you know what, Everything that America does for other countries isnt for our best intrests, but in the best intrests of sustaining freedom through out the world, wheather that is freedom of democracy or communisom or a no mans land, freedom is the basic goal. Who is there helping the civial War refugee christians in Africa? America. No one knows about whats goin on over there, it is even worse than Iraq, but we are over there as well helping out . Sudamm was going to have to be faced sooner or later. This is a fact. you cannot argue this. If he wasnt taken on as soon as possible, sacntions would have been lifted and he would have been totaly free to buy and sell nukes, and supply alkida or what ever other terror branch he wanted.

Suddam hates the Ameircan way and al Americans and anyone who wants to be free and not live under his decree. For every bad thing you cay about Iraq there are two postives that be said in defense for it. the worst thign that could happen is if America totally pulled out assitance in Iraq, Kerry would pull us out of there quicker than shit. Bush wants to stay and rebuild the country, Kerry doesnt. He wants to go through other countries, thorugh the UN and convince them to lend money and assistance to Iraq. No country will do this. Not without deals or treadies being made. Kerry will sell the country down the river. even more than it already is


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Why do we have to be the international bully? Did Iraq Ask? And Why couldn't we work with the UN, why do we have to alienate the world?

God, WHY the **** does your money matter so damn much to you? Its only ****ing paper.
Dammit

Everything we do Is For Bush's intrests. It is. Learn that. WE don't give a shit about anyone else?

I'm not gonna answer any mroe. You too brainwashed, you cant see through the Veil the've pulled over your eyes, you can't spit out the shit they are feeding you. Your brainwashed, Its not true.


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