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Is nudity considered "real" art to you?
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Of course, nudity is perfectly acceptable. There is a very big difference between pornography and nudity. 25 96.15%
No way! Nudity is for sick perverts trying to get their jollies! 1 3.85%
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Do you consider nudity in art to be "real" art?
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Xena
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Okay guys Im still waiting for a definition.......


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*sigh* I don't have to look in the God f***ing dictionary to know that art doesn't have to have nudity in it in order to be art, and you are severely disillusioned about me (and everyone else here, for that matter) if you think I thought "nudity" and "art" are synonomous.

However, I sincerely wish you would just drop this whole thing. It's a ridiculous argument, and sometimes you have to just agree to disagree in cases like this.


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Still waiting.....


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And no, I'm not going to post a definition of the word "art". I already know what art is, and I know, AS I HAVE SAID SEVERAL TIMES ALREADY, it is not required that something contain nudity for it to be art. And, once again, I will ask you this: Where in God's name did you get the idea I thought "art=nudity"?


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Darth Revan I suggest you calm down. Im not here to irratate you! all im asking is for you to point in the definition of Art where is "nudity" written. That is all! control yourself okay?


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Do I really need to tell you again??

I never said that art had to have nudity in it, and I don't know what you're trying to accomplish by telling me I said something I didn't.


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*sigh*

I will come back another day. You obviously dont want to have a reasonalbe discussion. pity!


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Answer me this, since you clearly aren't getting my point. Why do you need to know the definition of the word "art" if we both know, and agree, on what it is?

The only place where our opinions start to differ is when it comes to nudity in art. We both agree, as you correctly pointed out, that art is basically a medium for conveying ideas, thoughts, emotions, and opinions, through paintings, drawings, sculpture, music, or a number of other things. So why then, do you need to know it? And if you are trying to prove something here, which, by the way, you are failing at, why don't you just post the definition yourself? It's easy, you don't even have to leave the computer. Go to "dictionary.com", type the word in, and it will come up with a definition.


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quote:
Originally posted by Xena fan
do you really need nudity in order to have art? Pick up a dictionary and show me where does it say NUDITY is essential? Art is the creation of beautiful or thought-provoking works, for example, in painting, music, or writing.

Show me the definition of art and where it says it involves nudity. I will be waiting......

Nudity, even sexual acts* show feelings and thoughts by the artist, created to provoke thoughts in the viewer, from memory and knowledge - not to arouse them sexually. There are songs about sex and there are books that contain sexual scenes (different to pornographic novels).

(*Not allowed in this forum, because of age restrictions, but still considered art...)


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quote:
Originally posted by Xena fan
Okay guys Im still waiting for a definition.......

Any type of media/art can show basically anything, there is no strict definition or rule for it, that is why its art... it has the freedom of expression..


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Again, Im giving this thread another chance. If it goes out of hand, or if any flamming or bashing happens of any sort, I will close the thread.

Im sure we can all have a debate with out being rude to each other, can we not?


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quote:
Originally posted by Xena fan
Thats what i thought! you cant find it in the dictionary can you? I have made my point! it doesnt say anything in dictonary about nudity in art.


I just opened my dictionary and looked up the word 'fruit' smile
Apples are not mentioned in the definition, I guess they're not fruits smile


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Re: Do you consider nudity in art to be "real" art?

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Originally posted by JKozzy
It seems to be debated greatly among everyone here, so I must ask: is nudity considered "real" art to you?


Michaelangelos David is naked

lots of old paintings have nudity in them.


just because the medium has changed from sculpture+painting to film etc doesnt mean art cant contain nudity.

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quote:
Originally posted by Evy_O
I just opened my dictionary and looked up the word 'fruit' smile
Apples are not mentioned in the definition, I guess they're not fruits smile

laughing out loud funny...funny...but true


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quote:
Originally posted by Evy_O
I just opened my dictionary and looked up the word 'fruit' smile
Apples are not mentioned in the definition, I guess they're not fruits smile


laughing out loud oh my god... So true... Happy Dance


FISH: 1. Any of numerous cold-blooded aquatic vertebrates of the superclass Pisces, characteristically having fins, gills, and a streamlined body

Poor little Nemo isn't in that definition so I guess he's not a fish


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laughing out loud Oh poor Nemo

Seriously now, art, per definition, is "the conscious production or arrangement of sounds, colors, forms, movements, or other elements in a manner that affects the sense of beauty, specifically the production of the beautiful in a graphic or plastic medium".

Soo, human body IS beauty, isn't it? Either through the religious POV, (where God created Adam and Eve to be naked at first, blah blah blah) or through common sense: People are attracted to members of the opposite sex (or the same, whichever you prefer) emotionally AND sexually. Therefore nudity is beauty (most of the times stick out tongue )

Conclusion:
Nudity = Beauty
Art = Beauty

By simple mathematical logic,
Nudity = Art ... (under certain circumstances of course).

Art is NOT nudity, however. 'Tis not going backwards smile


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Bravo!

Im really impressed with that!! thumb up Well researched indeed! eek!


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quote:
Originally posted by Evy_O
laughing out loud Oh poor Nemo

Dory won't be able to find him sad


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quote:
Originally posted by Evy_O
I just opened my dictionary and looked up the word 'fruit' smile
Apples are not mentioned in the definition, I guess they're not fruits smile


A fruit is a phisycal object. Art is what is call an idea. some ideas can become rather perverted. So therefore an artist could use art to influence his perversions on the piece. Nudity is art? who made that rule? for me art is to created beauty for everyone to enjoy. Does an artist really need to have nudity to have art? I dont think so!

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quote:
Originally posted by Xena fan
Does an artist really need to have nudity to have art? I dont think so!


Obviously art without nudity exist's its every were, so why complain that SOME note the word SOME art has nudity. its clearly not offending anyone else, and not every one here is googleing over naked pics dipicting sex((probably becuase there are not any))

so really there is no reason to fight. this forum is full of art. if you dont like nudity in art, then just dont look at it. and if you dont like argueing with people. dont do it


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