I think there's a misunderstanding here: Anakin learned the trick like Obi and
Yoda, right? Nothing in the article says he wasn't in his body, it says he learned how to do it BEFORE he got f'd up. That's the explanation for why his ghost is there: a Jedi can choose to become a part of the Force and keep their identity. Lucas said something like this a few years ago, somewhere.
ok, as i said...vader has anakin's memories.
if not, then he is IN NO WAY anakin, and therefor cannot
recall obiwan, or the fact that he had a wife, or that she was pregnant.
which we know is incorrect.
so how come vader would suddenly not know about the force-dissapearence trick? how could he not know that ben was still guiding luke, or just NOT ended as he declares. that is what makes no sense, unless vader just has a selective memory, which is just plain stupid.
"In the feature-length audio commentary, Lucas vaguely addresses the issue, explaining Anakin learned -- as did Obi-Wan and Yoda -- to retain his "original identity" -- before he was resurrected as the black-masked master of evil"
ANAKIN then retains his OWN identity, making vader someone entirely different....so how is that possible?
"there is still good in him" luke talks about VADER, who he met in ESB. he felt the CONFLICT.
Sorry about that it just spread like wildfire.....
Anakin knew it was possible but hadn't seen it done. He doesn't try it himself
until he's dying. No disappearance? I don't know.....
Depends on how this is adressed in the movie, I think.
Well, if it is indeed so that Anakin consciously learns it in Episode III, then this makes continuity... 'interesting'... as indeed, Vader was not meant to know about it. Unless he suffers recent memory loss at the time of his injuries.
But no point getting too worked up yet- we don't KNOW how this will be addressed in III yet; this is just rumour.
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you just changed his quote man... he said original, as in previous, as in he had one Identity as Anakin then another as The black masked Vader
And we already know that when Anakin awakes he is told of what has happened and becomes furious... if he had no memory he would just be like who is Padme and who cares.
now ush, it seems to me that this will be the explanation.
so please answer- do you find this concept of 'selective memory loss'
to be just a really bad idea? would it not make more sense for the "force ghost" revelation to be revealed AFTER anakin's demise?
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