Ok, I havnt read the books with Kyp in it, but i have read some quotes from the books and they state that Kyp was not possed by Exar Kun, and that he beat luke only under Kun's influence and Kyp beat him anyway. And the only reason luke beat Vader was because he was using the darkside, as Obi-wan was in episode 1 against darth maul.
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There's a chart somewhere showing peoples' midi Chlorian count, I'm sure Anakin Skywalker was the stongest but Darth Vadar lost some of it when he lost limbs. I think this meant that Luke was indeed stronger than Vader or the Emporer then.
Yoda admits that the current jedi are nowhere near as powerful as they used to be, so I interpret that as saying that the TOTJ jedi were more powerful.
Okay, Luke Skywalker (half trained or not) still beat Darth Vader, something all the Jedi who got purged couldn't do and don't say he was weak, because he still could have made his robot body faster like Grievous. He is a technical genius afterall.
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the only reason he beat vader though is because vader was never supposed to beat luke, just make him angry, that was the point. if palpy gave the order to slaughter him, luke would be pushin up daisies
well first it wasnt pathetic, second, um at the point where he defeats him, he's not trying to convert anyone, he's in a blind rage because darth vader pissed him off to no end. he isnt thinking about much of anything,save for killing darth vader. uh thank you
Well, ya he was in a rage which really boosted his power, but he still didnt want to kill Vader just defeat him. The only reason I said it was pathetic was because Luke beat him in about 40 seconds of his blind rage and all throughout the fight Vader didnt even get close to touching him except for the lightsaber throw, which was a pretty good move.
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dont you get that if Luke was trying to kill Vader he wouldnt have lasted two minutes against luke. They both wanted to convert the other, not kill him which puts them on even ground and luke was whooping him. Once again, if luke was trying to kill vader, vader would be scrap parts even if vader was trying to kill luke.
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You know, I debated on this one awhile. Of what I know, (And granted, it's not as much as I'd like) I'd have to nominate NJO Luke for this award. As much as I like and respect old Force users like Yoda, Revan, and Exar Kun, from what I've heard Luke becomes quite the BAMF.
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