Oh boy... does anybody want to reply ? I sure don't.
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Man oh man MERC, I can tell you this as an experienced fighter.
It only takes 3 pounds of pressure per square inch to break a bone, of course you have to apply that to a certain point for that to happen, it's not as difficult as it looks.
I hold your arm out and hit a very exact point on your elbow very hard, it breaks.
Registered fighting styles don't always mean something, granted there are people who are good at hurting people without ever being trained, then there are people who have been trained to fight by Dojo owners, "MOST ARE ONLY IN FOR THE MONEY" and have never been in a real fight where they have to control their emotions, and face people who wont relent and don't have an honor code like they do. Whats worse they let these people become masters "Black Belts" in these arts in only 2,3, or 4 years.
Granted these guys can throw down pretty damn good, but Bats ain't hitting harder than spidey.
Imagine this, a fighting master BRUCE LEE even where to go attack and piss of a 1300 pound polar bear or a 2 ton elephant, animals that if you hit with a truck would wreck a truck. What would happen when technique comes against natural EXTREME physical superiority. What happens then?
I'll tell you a secret : he's doing it on purpose, telling stupid things about Spider-Man. I guess he likes the attention and likes the fact that he irritates the hell out of people.
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For the last time....NEITHER CHARACTER EXISTS PERIOD. I don't care if Batman has a better chance of existing because even if he did, I don't see him walking down the driveway leading out of Wayne Manor to get the mail, or slapping the Joker around a city block or two, or busting up Two Face's henchmen, etc, because I'd imagine it would be hard for anyone who does not exist to do so.
If real world physics can't be applied to a character's abilities and only PIS/CIS examples are acceptable then what's the point of discussion? What's the point of this forum? Are you saying that the only answers to versus fights on this forum are found in comics? That's not fact Cresh, that's your opinion. I myself would prefer digging deeper into the matter and actually taking into effect advantages and limitations that could be logically applied to both characters.
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You finally came around to reading this ridiculous statement, and then the funny thing is real world logic doesn't come into power here and then Creshosk contradicts himself by saying the characters for real.
You have fabulous selective reading skills you know that?
In the comic book world you have to use comic book logic. If you use" real world logic none of the characters do exist.
I still think that a loon running around throwing stuff at people has a better chance of existing in the real world than a kid who got powers from a spiderbite. . .
"Batman doesn't exist!"
Lol that's why I say you have selective reading skills. that phrase "Better chance of existing" just frustrates the hell out of you doesn't it? Especially since in the last post I didn't say it was batman nor spiderman in those examples just
But damn, if "a freak in a weird outfit with stuf stuffed into a belt thatr goes around throwing stuff at people" reads as batman to you.
You can apply real world physics to the abilities of both characters, there's nothing wrong with that and it makes for a logical no nonsense debate. Using comic book logic would only mean mixing both real world physics and out-of-this world, man this is crap type physics.
I mean, at least there's an explanation for Spidey kicking through concrete, steel, and other dense material...just like there's an explanation for Batman taking out a slew of ninjas. But you can't just mix in a little: "Well, Spidey did beat a herald of Galactus" or "Well, Batman does regualrly mix it up with Supes" and expect people to just agree no questions asked. At the very least logic should be a key factor in this discussion...taking into perspective both the tactical, physical, and hth abilties of both competitors as well as there weapons and to what extent could one use said weapons on the other competitor. It doesn't matter if you can't find the way a character got their powers unrealistic or not and use that as an excuse to use PIS/CIS "logic," for lack of better word. If we were all to do that, than in a Spidey vs. Superman thread I could say that: "Well, aliens don't exist, and Superman is an alien with crazy powers! How redicoulous does that sound? Spidey wins."
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Stats mean something, but they don't mean EVERYTHING.
Based soley on stats Juggernaut outclasses the X-men
He's stronger than any of them, and pretty much invulnerable to their attacks. Especially with that psionic blockign helmet of his. There's no way any of the X-Men can touch him. He could waltz all over them and there's nothing they could do.
So obviously if you think the X-men stand even a snowball's chance you're just a fanboy.
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At any given time the X-men have 30 telepaths on hand. And half of them are always Jean Grey's kids. They just have to gang rape the helmets then zap him.
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