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This movie was good. 8 out of 10. Some parts could have been better and some parts were perfect.

[SPOILER - highlight to read]: And whoever said earlier that it was retarded that Deadpool got "killed" the way he was...was right. And Deadpool getting raised from teh deadz was stupid too. Maybe they could have Deadpool's adamantium blades "reject" from his body....as well as the optic blast power and transporting abitlies...and we are left with just his healing factor and his superhuman fighting abilities.


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he can teleport in the comics, except he uses a device on his belt, i didn't mind the way they did it in the movie


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he can teleport in the comics, except he uses a device on his belt, i didn't mind the way they did it in the movie


It wasn't a natural ability so they have to "remove" that ability to get him back to "normal." (As well as the others.)


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IMO, he just needed some much better scripts. erm Didn't mind him as Cyclops otherwise.


he wasn't physically right either...


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Physically... like appearance-wise? Elaborate. huh


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I moved the thread here so that it may be merged. Would you do the honors, Peach? Thanx.


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Stryker said something in the movie that grabbed my attention.

He told an Angry Victor that he could not survive the bonding process like James did. Is that true, in the context of the movie, or was that a lie? If he couldn't survive it, that means Wolvie's healing factor is better than good ol' Victor's.


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Originally posted by dadudemon
Stryker said something in the movie that grabbed my attention.

He told an Angry Victor that he could not survive the bonding process like James did. Is that true, in the context of the movie, or was that a lie? If he couldn't survive it, that means Wolvie's healing factor is better than good ol' Victor's.



I believe that was a lie because Stryker just wanted Logan to have the adamantium all to himself


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Originally posted by dadudemon
Stryker said something in the movie that grabbed my attention.

He told an Angry Victor that he could not survive the bonding process like James did. Is that true, in the context of the movie, or was that a lie? If he couldn't survive it, that means Wolvie's healing factor is better than good ol' Victor's.

It could've been a lie, I don't think it was though. I think Stryker would've wanted his second in command to have the strength to do whatever he commanded. If it was true though that's stupid, as far as we know Wade didn't have one and had to have Wolvies healing factor put in him, so if that's the case then just use wolverine's and amp up Vic's healing factor too right?


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Originally posted by CATMANEXE
im a big X-Fan. saw this yesterday. know, i keep an open mind to the fact that movies are just adaptions, and in the particular case of X-Men, theres alot of problems.first, jamming 40 years into 2 hours. not going to happen. ive heard alot of people whine about continuity in the movies not being the same as the book. 40 years spanning multiple books at a time<>2 hours. not possible. second, fans demand to see certain characters in movies and are upset if they dont see them, so
it falls to the crew to find a way to try and get the most popular ones in. lastly, and this pertains again to that 40 years, the larger part of persons who will see these movies and i mean vast numbers have no clue who these characters are and all of their background including that which tied into other books and events, and to just plop them in there and expect millions of people to just deal with that is ludicrious, and would cause the films to make no money and in turn the cimci company loses money and cred and go's right back to the wonderful days of that direct-to-dvd fantastic 4 crap, and for those who didnt see that and such other wonderful films like the made for tv but never released on tv Generation X movie and the Dolph Lundgren Captain America movie, and the only Marvel movie with any notariety was Howard The Duck, let me tell you something.
you should feel very lucky the movies are this good in fact that they even exsist at all. if it werent for Marvel films in fact, Marvel would not have come out from bankruptcy and likely would have either tanked by now or have been purchased by somebody else.

now that my motivation is clear so no one quotes and trolls me and makes it look like a fair attempt, i thought the movie was good and really fun. the action was defianatly cool and the characterazations were great as always. i was particularly impressed by Gambit and Wade, and got a kick out of Blob. i also appreciated that Sabretooth
finally had dialogue and came off the sadistic villian he was supposed to be. a great movie unless your the kind of person that gets itchy when a movie and a book are differant. then i reccomend going bowling instead. much easier concept to pull together and doesnt require an imagination.


Completely agree.
Thanks for saying it for me.
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Agreed smile And same here, thanks for typing all that out *nods*


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I also agree with it

Still the writers could've done so much more with it.


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I'd love to see Eric von Sydow as Wolverine in the official movie. IMO he was great in Punisher First Round fanfilm.


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The work print was better. Why? Sabretooth calling Wade gay was the funniest line in the movie. sad


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Originally posted by BruceSkywalker
I believe that was a lie because Stryker just wanted Logan to have the adamantium all to himself


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It could've been a lie, I don't think it was though. I think Stryker would've wanted his second in command to have the strength to do whatever he commanded. If it was true though that's stupid, as far as we know Wade didn't have one and had to have Wolvies healing factor put in him, so if that's the case then just use wolverine's and amp up Vic's healing factor too right?


I watched it a second time and paid close attention to the dialogue on that part. Stryker said that the tests came back negative and that he would die. That tells me that Victor really couldn't, in that Marvel universe, survive the adamantium infusion. Stryker then says something about working on it and needing more time...which, that part, is probably the lie to get him to shutup about it.




After watching it a second time, I thought it was better. Still, I give it a 7 or 8 out of 10. And it didn't feel like they crammed 45 years into 2 hours, it felt like they had huge time skips, a few minutes in this point in life, a 6 year time skip to finish the rest. (Lulz, I know what you meant by 45 years.) I defnitely like the story in from the comic, better. I feel that even a dumbass amature like myself could have written a better comic to movie adaptation...but, still, well worth the price of the ticket.


I would like to have seen at shorter dude (maybe 5'8" and 5'3" when hunched over like Wolverine) with thick muscles....and hairy. And if he wasn't hairy, add the damn hair. I would like to have also seen some more cold-heartedness from him. Maybe him listening to Stryker at first [SPOILER - highlight to read]: by killing innocent people and then reaching his rebellious breaking point.


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I watched it a second time and paid close attention to the dialogue on that part. Stryker said that the tests came back negative and that he would die. That tells me that Victor really couldn't, in that Marvel universe, survive the adamantium infusion. Stryker then says something about working on it and needing more time...which, that part, is probably the lie to get him to shutup about it.


You should have noticed how Kayla said that Stryker was lying to Creed and just using him. It was pretty clear that Stryker wasn't sure that someone could survive the Adamantium bounding process, so instead of gambling with the live of his best opperative, he used Wolverine. Pretty simple...


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You should have noticed how Kayla said that Stryker was lying to Creed and just using him.


Yeah, immediately AFTER Stryker said that he (Stryker) needed more time to get it to work for Victor, which furthers my conclusion.

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It was pretty clear that Stryker wasn't sure that someone could survive the Adamantium bounding process, so instead of gambling with the live of his best opperative, he used Wolverine. Pretty simple...


Yes, this is true.


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I accidentally saw the bootleg version...or better yet, I didn't plan on seeing it, but I enjoyed it and still ended up seeing it in theaters. I thought it was really done well, the casting was spot on for each character, the action was superb, and it's the best X-Men film yet. 8/10


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In the claws in the mirror scene, did anyone else notice the claws looked like they were something out of who framed roger rabbit? hurray for unfinished effects.


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I don't get how he wasn't right for Cyclops physically....I mean, this was back when he was in high school before the training and such, so he's not meant to be a really in shape or musclebound guy at that age. Facial features wise, I thought he looked very much like Scott from some of the comics, and especially the version from XM: Evolution.


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